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kaydeejay

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Posted: 06/17/08 09:03am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Here is the C&D article that Steve_in_29 referred to. Makes for interesting reading, especially the amount of energy required to electrolyze hydrogen from water!
From the article"
"The industrial divorcing of water molecules is known as electrolysis. This is fuel by immaculate conception, according to most greenies. To make the chemistry work, you must put in 39.4 kilowatt-hours of energy for each kilogram of hydrogen you expect to liberate. Unfortunately, the electrolysis process is only 70 percent efficient. So the total energy input must be 56.3 kilowatt-hours per kilogram of hydrogen."

His information source:- Donald Anthrop, Ph.D., professor emeritus of environmental studies at San Jose State University, in a Cato Institute report.

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kaydeejay wrote:

Here is the C&D article that Steve_in_29 referred to. Makes for interesting reading, especially the amount of energy required to electrolyze hydrogen from water!
From the article"
"The industrial divorcing of water molecules is known as electrolysis. This is fuel by immaculate conception, according to most greenies. To make the chemistry work, you must put in 39.4 kilowatt-hours of energy for each kilogram of hydrogen you expect to liberate. Unfortunately, the electrolysis process is only 70 percent efficient. So the total energy input must be 56.3 kilowatt-hours per kilogram of hydrogen."

His information source:- Donald Anthrop, Ph.D., professor emeritus of environmental studies at San Jose State University, in a Cato Institute report.

And KC8WX, I'm done arguing with you, but I will continue to provide REAL DATA and scientific reality to support my position. I challenge you to do the same.


What you don't understand is that the Second Law of Thermodynamics has been repealed. Didn't you get the memo?


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Clay L wrote:

What you don't understand is that the Second Law of Thermodynamics has been repealed. Didn't you get the memo?
Ahhh, right, I guess they left me off the distribution list!
Doesn't Newton come into it somewhere: "Energy cannot be created nor destroyed"? No, wait a minute; that was the First Law! aka "Conservation of Energy"

* This post was edited 06/17/08 11:21am by kaydeejay *

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I guess some folks slept through their science classes in high school. I still remember splitting water into oxygen and hydrogen and then burning them. That was over 30 years ago. As soon as i have some time i'm going to try and build my own hydrogen generator(hopefully in the next couple weeks).

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Next thread will be on the explosive nature of hydrogen!

Take videos so we can watch it on You Tube.

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There is an airplane on a run way. The run way is like a conveyor belt, and can detect the speed of the wheels of the airplane. When the run way senses the wheels moving, the run way will move match the speed of the airplane's wheels but in the opposite direction.

Can this airplane take off?

What if the propeller is attached to a hydrogen generator?



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Boy, this is better than the daily funnies.

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mich800 wrote:

There is an airplane on a run way. The run way is like a conveyor belt, and can detect the speed of the wheels of the airplane. When the run way senses the wheels moving, the run way will move match the speed of the airplane's wheels but in the opposite direction.

Can this airplane take off?

What if the propeller is attached to a hydrogen generator?



(Just trying to lighten the mood.)


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A 10 mpg increase is a big number when you only get 20mpg to start with.


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