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dodge guy

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Posted: 06/15/08 09:19am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The truck can handle it safely, but the performance will be terrible. the 4.7 in the heavy trucks i.e. quad cab and 4wd, is a dog with just people in it.

That 6700lbs will be approx. 8k lbs ready to travel. OK! behind a HEMI but not a 4.7!!!

I`m at 8600lbs with our TT and believe me even with the Excursion and V-10 you know it`s back there.

I would stick to something with a dry weight of around 4500-5000lbs. this should put you at 6k lbs ready to travel. a little more realistic.


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Too much weight for your TV.

If you must base your decision on dry weight go for something at 4,000 max. But the better way to go is get the GVWR. If you use this I am thinking 6,000 might be all you want in a TT.

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When the camper manufacturer says the camper is half ton towable, they dont say were it is half ton towable.


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Check the hitch max weight. If your fine on the CGVWR and you are ok on the Hitch weight, it should be fine. However, your engine size may be the factor in hills or mountains that you may wish was different. TO find these numbers check in your owners manuel or search the web for towing. God Bless

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I had a Dakota 4.7 Crew cab - towed a 22' Hybrid in the BC mountains. The 4.7 simply did not have the cojones at all in that environment. Actual camping trailer weight was 4450lbs. That was scaled at Golden BC at the time. On two occaisions in warmer weather, I overheated. Now The truck had some camping gear in it but not overly so, as well 2 adults and 2 teens in the truck. CAI and exhaust were done too...didn't really help.

In my opinion, towing capacity is overstated by every vehicle manuafcturer. they are interested in selling vehicles...and vehicles only.

Take what is stated on the truck and cut that # in half...and the end # should be what your loaded/actual trailer weight is/should be.

As you can see from above, I too, was already overloaded with my set-up for the truck I had. I do believe the Dakota was rated at the time for 7000lbs. I got there but one has to wonder what the overall wear and tear on the motor and transmision was in so doing.

I have since bought a duramax - no real worries now except for speeding tickets.

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What I tow is in my sig. Same truck as you but not 4x4. I only tow in FLA, all flat. I do OK...just ok though. I would be scared to pull it in any hilly or mountainous area. If i have headwinds even in FLA I have a hard time getting it to 55mph.Not near enough torque for a trailer that size. I have never tried it anywhere but FLA but I would be concerned I would tear up my truck so we just stay in FLA and for us the setup works ok. I really think it depends on where you plan on towing. I feel I am at my max with this truck but I can't afford to sell it so we live with it. It is only used for towing now anyway. We drive the toyota that gets 35 mpg city and 40-45 on the hwy as our daily driver now.


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Your truck is probably rated 7500 GVWR, maybe less. So using that logic your trailer GVWR should be 6500 or less to stay below your 14000 GCWR, get it? And you are still advised to go a little lighter so you don't work the drivetrain hard all the time.
Now, if you weigh the truck and your load to get actual GVW and it's less, then fine, go up on the trailer GVW, just don't go past your axle ratings (FAWR & RAWR)or your GCWR. Trust me, get a trailer your truck can handle easily or you'll be out truck shopping before long, and that's really a shame when you can think ahead and avoid the cost and hassle.


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We have the same truck and engine combination, except in an '04 model. We tow the trailer in our sig. GVW for the trailer is only around 4200#. We've never had it loaded that heavily.

Last summer, we took a trip from Southern California along I-10 through Arizona and then up through New Mexico to I-40 and then back home. There were some hills to pull, but most of the trip is just rolling topography. The truck would not hold high gear. Forget about overdrive. The truck kept bouncing back and forth between 4th and 3rd (it is a 5 speed transmission). Even with the slightest rise, the truck would downshift.

As soon as we got home, I took the truck in and had 4:56 gears put in. It made a HUGE difference. However, I still would not pull much more than what we are pulling right now. The 4.7 engine is a great engine, but it just doesn't have the umph to pull much more.


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My trailer was listed as 6580# dry weight. It weighs in at 9000# loaded for a trip, and I pull it with a 3/4 ton diesel. A 4.7L V8 will be working it's ever-lovin guts out just trying to get up to highway speed with that trailer. Not enough motor - not even close...


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MY BIL tows a 30 foot Rockwood bunk model. He has an 05 Dodge with 4.7 and 3:55 rear. When he first upgraded to this trailer he thought he would need a new truck. I looked up the power band for the 4.7. I told him to rev the motor up into the power band. The truck tows just fine now that he knows where the power is. He tows at the rated speed on I81 from his home in Crossville TN to PA. several times a year.

The Trailer you are looking at is to heavy, I would look at trailer with a gross weight rating of 7000lbs or less. Rockwood makes many in the weight class.


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