Maybe some of the older models had a low ceiling height, but all the new towlite models have an interior height of 6' 3 1/2 " and the classic models are 6' 6" inside.
You might also consider the Tacoma also built by Fleetwood which is a hard side popup much like the Hi Lo. I havent looked at one personally but have gone to fleetwoods website to look at it from there. I do have a web site that has pictures of the inside and it is the dealership where I got my graphite PUP. here is the link.
http://www.toppersrvs.com/RC/viewad.asp?id=50271484916100003
I think the cost is about if not close to the Hilos and Trail manors, maybe a bit cheaper. One thing though it comes in one size. However it will fit in your garage. That of course is a plus for us.
Happycamping Yawl
Chav
"...Let me ride through that wide open country that I love:
Let me be by myself in the evenin breeze,
And listen to the murmur of the cottonwood trees.
Send me off forever but I ask you please,
Dont fence me in."
I would also suggest looking into the new Fleetwood hard side PUP. It is called "Tacoma." I have the link to where you can see the inside for yourself. The good points is it fits in your garage, and the downside it in one size. It does have the hard side shower and regular trailer toilet. Here is the link to view the pictures. I would love to have one myself but the price is a little steep for me.
sushidog wrote: Maybe some of the older models had a low ceiling height, but all the new towlite models have an interior height of 6' 3 1/2 " and the classic models are 6' 6" inside.
As you see on the site for "2008" models, the 1508T, 1708T, 1908T, and 2208T have the 5'11" (71") short ceiling height.
The 2308C has a 6'1" (73") ceiling height also. Much to low for the 6' height man let alone anyone taller. I've had tents with higher ceilings than these.
Only after you go longer than a 24' trailer, do you get ceiling height where a 6' person can comfortably stand in.
Even Trailmanor's smallest camper has a 6'4" (76") tall ceiling height. It also has a dinette and 2 double size beds and weighs only 2673 lbs! Slightly lighter than the Tiny 1908T Hi Lo.
sushidog wrote: Maybe some of the older models had a low ceiling height, but all the new towlite models have an interior height of 6' 3 1/2 " and the classic models are 6' 6" inside.
As you see on the site for "2008" models, the 1508T, 1708T, 1908T, and 2208T have the 5'11" (71") short ceiling height.
The 2308C has a 6'1" (73") ceiling height also. Much to low for the 6' height man let alone anyone taller. I've had tents with higher ceilings than these.
Only after you go longer than a 24' trailer, do you get ceiling height where a 6' person can comfortably stand in.
Even Trailmanor's smallest camper has a 6'4" (76") tall ceiling height. It also has a dinette and 2 double size beds and weighs only 2673 lbs! Slightly lighter than the Tiny 1908T Hi Lo.
Their website is a little confusing. The 71" posted on the site is the "Traveling Height" which is the height to the outside top of the camper measured from the ground, without the a/c. This measurement is when towing or storing in your garage. If you pull-up the Brochure PDF on the website link you posted, the distinction will be clear. I am 5'11" and I actually went inside a towlite 22" model, and there was plenty of head clearance for me. Here's the link:
http://www.hilotrailer.com/Downloads/2007_HILO_Brochure.pdf
I also poked around the inside the Trailmanor at an RV show. Though it certainly is light, it flexed quite a bit when my DW and I walk around inside. It was set-up on concrete, and the stabilizers were down. The Hi-Lo, on the other hand, was solid as a rock. The clearances between the halves were tighter, and it had better fit and finish than the TM - IMHO. I can see the value of the Trailmanor (lots of inside space and towable by a smaller vehicle), but if I were going to buy one today for frequent use, it would be a Hi-Lo, even though the specs of the Trailmanor look better "on paper." I suggest giving each model you're interested in a thorough walk-through, inspecting the cabinets, underbelly, etc. before you decide which best suits your needs.
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I am the happy owner of a 17 ft. Hi-Lo. Just finished a 7000 mile cross country with the DW and dog. Pulled with a Ford f150 V6. Appreciated the low profile coming into Demming NM with 58 mph winds. Sets up in seconds and stores in my garage. Also, I'm 6 ft. and haven't hit the ceiling yet, so it must be higher than 5'11". Really, we love it. Al C
10tca01 wrote: Our friends have a Trail Manor, they love it. The smallest hi-lo was featured in this months trailer life mag. It seems pretty good also.
Tyler
I was impressed with that little 15 footer!
2006 Hornet 28BHDS-Bunk House, Dual Slides
2006 Dodge Ram 2500 HD
5.7L Hemi, Factory Towing Package
Reese Brake Controller, WD Hitch and Sway Bar
"I also poked around the inside the Trailmanor at an RV show. Though it certainly is light, it flexed quite a bit when my DW and I walk around inside. It was set-up on concrete, and the stabilizers were down."
and if it had a bath, I bet the walls and door hooks rattled with every step in the unit.
bumpy
Well . . . they both are pretty good, but my final choice was a Trail Manor. Who really cares which one sets up fastest? Either will blow away a PUP. My wife can set up the Trail Manor in just a few minutes. It's fun to set up the Trail Manor and sit in a lawn-chair for another 20 minutes watching a neighbor crank up his PUP!
We looked at the HI-LO and the Trail Manor. Our 2720SL is the best for our needs - remember - our 2720 opens up to 27' and tows 20'. It weighs less than 2800 lbs dry. The HI-LO is heavier. Don't know anything about creaking and shaking as mentioned by someone. My comparisons are Trail Manor versus a PUP. The solid-wall bath and recirculating toilet are the greatest. The solar panel keeps the batteries charged and the television antenna and air-conditioner are wonderful.
Either the Trail Manor or the HI-LO are better for towing than any RV. Part of our decision was that the lighter Trail Manor would tow better with our Jeep. These "don't cross the line" arguments are silly. Either trailer meets specific needs. Our Border Collie likes the Trail Manor. The insulated floor is a plus.