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Camperroo

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Lori, since the pain in your hands is thankfully manageable try considering the use of this homeopathic lotion, it's called Joint Rescue. The link is:

Relief from arthritis pain

I use the tendon rescue and it has helped with my should amazingly well. Where my shoulder use to feel "frozen" when it acted up when I've used the Tendon Rescue and massaged it into the area I find the pain gone and movement back literally the next day. I continue to use it for a few more days to make sure and it's been so great. No more trips to the ortho for the shoulder. I don't know how these homeopathic ingrediens work, but it's made an amazing difference for me. I'd always been kind of skeptical of these homeopathic type things until a friend insisted I try this for my pain and I couldn't believe the results. I always make sure I have an extra bottle on hand in case I run out!!

Try rubbing in the Joint Rescue into your hands twice a day and I'm thinking that you may find your hands pain free. Many Whole Foods stores sell Peaceful Mountain products and health stores plus you can order online.


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Camperroo wrote:

Lori, since the pain in your hands is thankfully manageable try considering the use of this homeopathic lotion, it's called Joint Rescue. The link is:

Relief from arthritis pain

I use the tendon rescue and it has helped with my should amazingly well. Where my shoulder use to feel "frozen" when it acted up when I've used the Tendon Rescue and massaged it into the area I find the pain gone and movement back literally the next day. I continue to use it for a few more days to make sure and it's been so great. No more trips to the ortho for the shoulder. I don't know how these homeopathic ingrediens work, but it's made an amazing difference for me. I'd always been kind of skeptical of these homeopathic type things until a friend insisted I try this for my pain and I couldn't believe the results. I always make sure I have an extra bottle on hand in case I run out!!

Try rubbing in the Joint Rescue into your hands twice a day and I'm thinking that you may find your hands pain free. Many Whole Foods stores sell Peaceful Mountain products and health stores plus you can order online.


I might suggest rubbing in some other lotion for the same amount of time and see if it doesn't do as much good for a lot less money.
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Crowe wrote:

I've just been diagnosed with osteoarthritis in my hands. Although painful at times it's not at a stage that requires meds like Celebrex (nor can I take them because of my heart) so the doc suggested glucosimine/chondroitin supplements. However, I was not given a dosage amount. Is there a set dose? Does age factor in (I'm only 47)? These are questions I thought about when it was too late and I figure I'll get an answer here quicker than from the office!


Crowe, I've got OA in both shoulders, but I also work in a hospital pharmacy and have access to lots of info. According to Mosby's Drug Consult:
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Chondroitin Dosing
Adult (18 years and older)
Oral
Monotherapy: Doses of 200-400 mg twice to three times daily, or 800-1200 mg once daily have been used in studies. Higher doses (up to 2000 mg) appear to have similar efficacy. In the treatment of osteoarthritis, full effects may take several weeks to occur.
Combination with glucosamine: It is not clear what dose is optimal when used in combination with glucosamine or whether the combination is as effective as or more effective than either agent alone.


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Glucosamine Dosing
Adults (18 years and older)
Osteoarthritis : In most available studies, 500 milligrams of glucosamine sulfate has been used, taken by mouth as tablets or capsules three times daily, for 30 to 90 days. Once daily dosing as 1.5 grams (1500 milligrams) has also been used. Limited research has used 1500 milligrams daily as a crystalline powder for oral solution, or 500 milligrams of glucosamine hydrochloride three times daily. Dosing of 20 milligrams per kilogram of body weight daily has also been recommended in some publications. One study used a dose of 2000 milligrams per day for 12 weeks.
Other forms of glucosamine studied for osteoarthritis include : intra-articular (joint injections) of 400 milligrams of glucosamine sulfate daily for 7 days, 400 milligrams of glucosamine sulfate intravenously (through the veins) daily for 7 days, and muscular injections of 400 milligrams twice weekly. Another kind of glucosamine that has been used is a topical form in combination with chondroitin for a 4 week period. Safety and effectiveness of these formulations are not clearly proven.
Glucosamine hydrochloride provides more glucosamine than glucosamine sulfate, although this difference likely does not matter when products are prepared to provide a total of 500 milligrams of glucosamine per tablet.



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As a little bit of background, the following is from the FD&C Act.
"Whenever a drug is recognized in both the United States Pharmacopeia and the Homeopathic Pharmacopeia of the United States it shall be subject to the requirements of the United States Pharmacopeia unless it is labeled and offered for sale as a homeopathic drug, in which case it shall be subject to the provisions of the Homeopathic Pharmacopeia of the United States and not to those of the United States Pharmacopeia."
The first circumvention of the Act before the weeds and seeds one.

I did a google search and found this somewhat interesting:
homeopathy

"Unless the laws of chemistry have gone awry, most homeopathic remedies are too diluted to have any physiological effect...."
---Consumer Reports (January 1987)

"Many previous studies have demonstrated that homeopathy has an effect over and above placebo....It has been established beyond doubt and accepted by many researchers, that the placebo-controlled randomised controlled trial is not a fitting research tool with which to test homeopathy." --a spokeswoman from the Society of Homeopaths

"...for the purposes of popular discourse, it is not necessary for homeopaths to prove their case. It is merely necessary for them to create walls of obfuscation, and superficially plausible technical documents that support their case, in order to keep the dream alive in the imaginations of both the media and their defenders." --Ben Goldacre

I note that the Society of Homeopaths ridiculed placebo-controlled trials as not applicable. that sort of shoots down most all modern approval procedures.
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* This post was edited 06/21/08 06:54am by Bumpyroad *

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Camperoo, believe it or not, I have to run those ingredients by my CHF nurse or the cardiologist. I can't take St. John's Wort because it interferes with my Digoxin, which is a derivative of the Foxglove plant. I have an appointment w/my CHF nurse in a few weeks so I will either ask her then or email her with the question.

Bumpy, I know you mean well, but a 20 year old quote from a questionable magazine and a few quotes pulled from who knows where doth not a case make. Chiropractors once were thought of as quacks but with advances in techniques and the overall science of the practice they do wonderful things. Just ask my son.


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Crowe wrote:

Camperoo, believe it or not, I have to run those ingredients by my CHF nurse or the cardiologist. I can't take St. John's Wort because it interferes with my Digoxin, which is a derivative of the Foxglove plant. I have an appointment w/my CHF nurse in a few weeks so I will either ask her then or email her with the question.

Bumpy, I know you mean well, but a 20 year old quote from a questionable magazine and a few quotes pulled from who knows where doth not a case make. Chiropractors once were thought of as quacks but with advances in techniques and the overall science of the practice they do wonderful things. Just ask my son.


I used great discretion to not post my true feelings about homeopathy out of respect to you. if you are getting relief and not spending an excessive amount of money, go for it. But try exactly the same amount of massage using ben gay.
but the fact remains that a lot of quackery is riding along on the coat tails of the old practice of homeopathy.
my quotes were from the Food and Drug Act, Consumer's reports, and the one from a Homeopathic group that poopooed the basis for all modern drug efficacy studies, double blind studies. That should tell you something.
firms have taken to putting the term 'homeopathic" on any nostrum to escape the need for proving safety and efficacy and escape FDA scrutiny. If you want to adhere to the theory that the weaker the drug is, the more potent it is which is one of the basics of homeopathy, have at it.

I do not consider chiropractors to be quacks when it comes to the relief of certain muscle ailments, etc. When they claim to be able to cure cancer with a manipulation of the spine, I do.

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Ben Gay-not on your life! I may FEEL old but I don't want to smell that way!

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Crowe wrote:

Ben Gay-not on your life! I may FEEL old but I don't want to smell that way!


I thought that they made odor free.
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I have to say this was a waste of money for me. Did not help with anything except a lighter wallet. I have had surgery on both shoulders now just completed rf on low back and that has helped alot but it has to be done yearly.
I can now sleep at night. I have also had a cervical spine fusion, rt ankle, and knee surgery. Maybe I have more problems tan others but honestly it did not help.


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