I've read that a rear projection TV should be on an uninterruptable power supply in case of a power failure. This allows the fan to run long enough to cool the bulb down. Otherwise the life of the bulb will be shortened.
For all you "geniuses" who told me to perform due diligence and I should have researched it, here is an article about the NEW KDS-R60XBR1, released in August 2005. I bought mine around 4 months later. The projection tube takes an average of 2 years to die. One of you said a year. Can you "geniuses" who performed due diligence please tell me how I could have known the bulb would go out when (in theory) none had failed yet? I did look around in 2005, but did not find anything talking about the Projection Bulbs burning out in 2007 or even 2008.
Note that the Consumer Reports article below, dated Dec 2007 (2 years after I bought my TV, they state the claimed life of the bulbs is 5,000 hours. Could we call this article "due diligence"? Two years later? It sounds like Consumer Reports was unaware of 3,000 hours or 2 years also. I guess that puts poor ole me in good company. Not as smart as you, but heck, I only wanted to help people. Since some of you are clairvoyant, can you tell me how long the Phillips bulbs will last? I am told they are the correct replacement.
August 16, 2005
Sony Expands HDTV Line with 50 & 60-Inch Grand Wega TVs
Sony Electronics today introduced two new sets in the line based on the acclaimed Silicon X-tal (Crystal) Reflective Display (SXRD™) technology delivering full 1920 x 1080 high-definition resolution. The 1080p (progressive) KDS-R60XBR1 and KDS-R50XBR1 Grand WEGA models compliment two existing SXRD products -- the 70-inch QUALIA™ 006 micro-display and the QUALIA 004 front projector.
CONSUMER REPORTS ARTICLE
December 2007
CONSUMER REPORTS: FIRST EVER BRAND REPAIR RATES FOR LCD, PLASMA AND REAR-PROJECTION TVS
December issue also features Ratings of HDTVs; Advice on extended warranties for TVs
* They want to buy a TV from a more repair-prone brand because it’s low-priced.
* The TV will be used for 5,000 hours, the claimed life of many bulbs, within the time covered by an extended warranty, and the warranty covers bulb replacement.
* The warranty does not cost more than the bulb ($200 to $300) or 15 percent of the TVs price, whichever is less. CR recommends bargaining for a lower price; warranties have a high profit margin.
All kidding aside, I tried. Some times you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you. I guess I am getting old, after doing business with them for about 20 years, I thought I could trust them. Caveat Emptor? We can only do so much, guess offering to help was a mistake.
I love my 52' JVC D-ILA.Some newer DLP TV's have a LED light source rated for up to 60,000 hours.Thats over 20 years if used 8 hours daily.I have read the Plasma and LCD sets are designed to only last 5-7 years.Time will tell.
2oldman,
"What is the attraction in a rear projection TV?"
When I bought mine in 2002, 57" in LCD was nonexistent and plasma was 3 times the price. It's a really good picture and I don't have a clue about the "bulb" as I have had no problems with it.
Really the bulb should last longer than yours did and Most ( not everyone as its a "average") DO.... the ones that don't are the ones you hear from in posts ... not the ones like me that have older models with no bulb problems. Make sure the bulb fan runs and lets it cool off and perhaps a Power filter might help ... Sony was the top of the line and SXRD the best until they decided they couldn't sell them for enough profit this year and stopped making them . You may have just been unlucky or one of the reasons I listed above. To my Knowledge most extended warranties on them covered the bulb >>> I was offered one that covered 1 bulb in the warranty period. i chose to gamble mine will last 2 years at least baised on my older rearpro. I am surprised yours didn't cover it as that was the salesman's big selling point. Hope you have better luck with your new bulb
Bill
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dllfo wrote: For all you "geniuses" who told me to perform due diligence and I should have researched it, here is an article about the NEW KDS-R60XBR1, released in August 2005. I bought mine around 4 months later. The projection tube takes an average of 2 years to die. One of you said a year. Can you "geniuses" who performed due diligence please tell me how I could have known the bulb would go out when (in theory) none had failed yet? I did look around in 2005, but did not find anything talking about the Projection Bulbs burning out in 2007 or even 2008.
Note that the Consumer Reports article below, dated Dec 2007 (2 years after I bought my TV, they state the claimed life of the bulbs is 5,000 hours. Could we call this article "due diligence"? Two years later? It sounds like Consumer Reports was unaware of 3,000 hours or 2 years also. I guess that puts poor ole me in good company. Not as smart as you, but heck, I only wanted to help people. Since some of you are clairvoyant, can you tell me how long the Phillips bulbs will last? I am told they are the correct replacement.
August 16, 2005
Sony Expands HDTV Line with 50 & 60-Inch Grand Wega TVs
Sony Electronics today introduced two new sets in the line based on the acclaimed Silicon X-tal (Crystal) Reflective Display (SXRD™) technology delivering full 1920 x 1080 high-definition resolution. The 1080p (progressive) KDS-R60XBR1 and KDS-R50XBR1 Grand WEGA models compliment two existing SXRD products -- the 70-inch QUALIA™ 006 micro-display and the QUALIA 004 front projector.
CONSUMER REPORTS ARTICLE
December 2007
CONSUMER REPORTS: FIRST EVER BRAND REPAIR RATES FOR LCD, PLASMA AND REAR-PROJECTION TVS
December issue also features Ratings of HDTVs; Advice on extended warranties for TVs
* They want to buy a TV from a more repair-prone brand because it’s low-priced.
* The TV will be used for 5,000 hours, the claimed life of many bulbs, within the time covered by an extended warranty, and the warranty covers bulb replacement.
* The warranty does not cost more than the bulb ($200 to $300) or 15 percent of the TVs price, whichever is less. CR recommends bargaining for a lower price; warranties have a high profit margin.
All kidding aside, I tried. Some times you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you. I guess I am getting old, after doing business with them for about 20 years, I thought I could trust them. Caveat Emptor? We can only do so much, guess offering to help was a mistake.
Good Post!
It seems that some of our fellow RV folks are just looking to find fault and be critical of everything we do.
I understood your post as a "point" of information as it was intended. I guess some just get cranky as the years progress...
Scott
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dllfo wrote: We can only do so much, guess offering to help was a mistake.
You may have thought you were offering help, but it comes across as a rant against the dealer, Sony, and the warranty company-- and most of your anger at those entities appears to be misdirected.
You don't have to be one of us "geniuses" to see that the real problem wasn't that you were ripped off by Sony or by the extended warranty company-- you simply didn't understand what you were buying. Many of us have purchased TV's similar to yours, and extended warranties to cover them, and we're perfectly happy-- they're great TV's, they're less expensive than their LCD and plasma counterparts (even considering the bulb replacements), and if you buy the RIGHT extended warranty, it does cover the bulb. Clearly, you didn't understand that when you bought it, which is unfortunate, but not the fault of either Sony or the extended warranty company.
OTOH, you certainly have cause to be upset with the dealer-- so if your point was to simply warn us about him, well, thanks.
As far as providing help goes, here's some-- bookmark the links below. Each site is populated by people that are absolute geeks about the topic at hand and you can get far more accurate information at these sites on these topics that you'll ever get here. This is a fine place for advice about RV'ing, but a lousy source for accurate information about a lot of other things that are only peripherally related.
For information and advice about TV's, stereo, and other audio visual equipment:
another answer "Whats that point of rear projection" I just bought a 62" rear projection dlp for $1000, it is slim, only 21" deep so it fits in my built in nook. 1080P 62" widescreen in a plasma would cost triple at a minimum. I did buy the extended warranty, one of the first I have bought, covers two blub replacements in a five year period. I expect with our viewing habits, we will probably only need one of the blubs. the blubs also can be bought online, for $160. I had them open the back of the tv, there is a little hinged panel and show me how to replacement it, very simple.
A king size bed sure beats tent camping, not as young as I used to be, that ground sure got hard
2005 Cardinal 312BH with king size bed
2001 F250 Supercrew Longbed 7.3l diesel with banks power kit
several things that reduce blub life, are turning the tv on and off a lot. running it 6 hours straight, is not as hard on it, as watching for a 1/2 hour at a time, for 3 hours, ie, you turn in on and off 6 times. don't have exact figures but our manual specifically list things that shorten the blub life. another was poor ventilation, heat is a big factor.
FWIW, I checked my warranty from mackcam to make sure I wasn't mistaken on the bulb coverage, and although it's a little complex, it's there: the three year extended warranty on the TV starts when the one year factory warranty runs out, but the three year extended warranty on the bulb (which is a separate warranty, and can only be purchased in conjunction with the TV warranty) started on the day I bought the TV. Combined with the Amex coverage, here's how it works:
Year 1, Sony covers TV and bulb
Year 2, Mack covers TV and bulb
Year 3, Mack covers TV and bulb
Year 4, Mack covers TV only, Amex covers bulb
Year 5, Amex covers TV, bulb is not covered
The Mack warranty must be purchased within 30 days of TV purchase and gets good reviews on avsforum. I bought mine from a dealer who advertises there, but is also very active in the forums and well regarded: www.tapeworkstexas.com
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