abulka wrote: ....snip....
I think if the dog is lying down, restint, there should be no concern. I would only worry if the animal tried walking around and lost it balance due to a moving vehicle...
I see dogs running all around in the bed of a p/u truck. I see many even riding on top of a tool box mounted on the side rails of a p/u truck and they rarely ever loose their balance. In fact, I've never seen one fall due to wild turns, stops or starts. They will be fine back there. Now, a person trying to walk around in one while it's moving is another story.
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OK Mark, I know you'll show up eventually, but here is a sample dog trailer in the meantime. The dual axle/wheel arrangement looks suspiciously like that on a TT or 5er:
BTW, no, I don't transport Gretchen in our TT because I don't have to. However I also think, if done properly, it does not constitute animal abuse or cruelty.
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Now I don't need to post a photo of a dog trailer; unless people wish to see photos of pet adoption trailers (converted cargo trailers) being used by rescue orgs, SPCAs, local animal controls, and, local HSs.
The "ride" can vary widely between trailers just like tow vehicles. A lot depends upon the suspension and tire pressure and how close the trailer weight is to the max weight of the suspension. The closer the trailer weight is to the max of the suspension the softer the ride; just like the ride difference in the bed of an empty PU and a weighted down PU. Also note the ride you feel seated in a tow vehicle is much softer than the ride a dog will feel crated on the floor of a tow vehicle.
The safest place for a dog is crated. It's safer crated in a trailer than loose in the tow vehicle; both can roll over and have the roof crush. Once the TT or TV is crushed and broken open, a crated dog is not likely to escape onto the open highway to be hit. The crate offers protection from loose objects that will fly around during a crash.
As far as bathroom breaks, you shouldn't need to take them out any more frequently than you do at home; healthy adult dogs should be able to hold it for 8hrs (do you get up at night to take them out?).
Mark
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To those that think it is animal abuse....
HORSE TRAILERS!!!!
Don't think you would ever see Roy Rogers carry Trigger in the front seat
Treat your animals with respect and give it the proper care but in the end the choice is your own. JMO
DOTLDaddy wrote: OK Mark, I know you'll show up eventually, but here is a sample dog trailer in the meantime. The dual axle/wheel arrangement looks suspiciously like that on a TT or 5er:
BTW, no, I don't transport Gretchen in our TT because I don't have to. However I also think, if done properly, it does not constitute animal abuse or cruelty.
Traveling in this is different than riding in the back of a TT. They would be in a confined area without the risks of being hit by any flying projectiles, similar to riding in a crate. Not to mention the injuries that could happen if there was an accident.
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hemlox wrote: Traveling in this is different than riding in the back of a TT. They would be in a confined area without the risks of being hit by any flying projectiles, similar to riding in a crate. Not to mention the injuries that could happen if there was an accident.
There's no safety difference between loose in a TT or loose in a TV. Place the dog in a secured crate in the TT or TV.
Making a comparision of the inside of a stock animal trailer to an RV doesn't compute.
The trucks they use for commercial transportation such as the ones used by the greyhound tracks and for example hunting dog euthansiasts are trucks specifically designed where each animal is in a confined area similar to that as being in a crate with louvers, exit/entrance doors and they are CLIMATE CONTROLLED. Yes they are built on the same chasis' as MH, TT's, and all other commersical trucks using these frames.
When you transport animals this way (and not limited to)you are under the umbrella of the USDA regulations for transportation of animals. And trust me, they might 'not' be able to control conditions of a puppy mill but they are ALL OVER any vehicle running down the road transporting animals and stop them all to inspect them.Fines are hefty.
If an RV'er was found on the interstate to have dogs in a TT without proper ventilation exceeding the ambient temp required, water, etc according to the USDA laws they would be fined the same as a commercial hauler, under the AWA act for transportation of animals. Just something to think about.
It's a well know fact that pets secure in a crate survive accidents, pets that are loose in a vehicle rarely do, even in 'minor' crashes.
Do your pet a favor and, crate'em to save'em.
Thanks for the pics Mark.
All my pictures of 'creative thinking' of how many crates you can get into a conversion van are not on digital. I did get 4 GD crates and 2 500's in once though, and a Skiperkee in a crate up front on the floor!
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hemlox wrote: Traveling in this is different than riding in the back of a TT. They would be in a confined area without the risks of being hit by any flying projectiles, similar to riding in a crate. Not to mention the injuries that could happen if there was an accident.
There's no safety difference between loose in a TT or loose in a TV. Place the dog in a secured crate in the TT or TV.
Let's just say a dog is traveling in a safely secured, properly sized dog crate, the temperature is just right, and there is plenty of ventilation. Let's also assume there are not any "flying projectiles" zinging around the interior of your trailer. (I've never had any, myself ).
Then would it be OK for a dog to ride in a trailer that has the exact same suspension and ride as a commercial dog hauler???
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