momschool07 wrote: I'm curious - how do you feel about locals coming into the campground to use the pool?
I "feel" it is the owner's campground and is free to make whatever rules he or she deems appropriate. I also "feel" that if I don't like a situation in a campground, I will just find another place rather than whine and complain. Not sure about your RV, but mine has wheels for a purpose.
First of all, the owner does not live on site and has no idea what goes on other than what the management reports.
Secondly, we live here FT, not seasonal, we have local jobs and it is not feasible for us to just pack up and move just because of some bad apples in the pool - we can deal with that - management is on our side. These "locals" will not be back again as of this morning when I spoke to management.
Thirdly, I was not whining and complaining. I asked for opinions and I described a situation that I witnessed. I wanted to get a general idea about what different campgrounds offer and what everyone else had experienced.
P.S. If this is the same Wayne I know from this campground, and I hope it's not, shame on you for not confronting me with your opinion. If you're not Wayne B. from this campground, ignore this P.S.
No I am not the Wayne from the campground. You live full time there and I suppose you have become the least bit protective regarding your "space." It is annoying when anyone ruins an opportunity to use an amenity you have paid for, but perhaps since you have categorized the offenders in a tone that came across as "not as good as thou", it is hard to support your position. You referenced seasonals and full time residents, but what about overnighters. Are they held in the same disregard as the "locals?"
Well momschool07, this is exactly why we will always try to stay in a state park here in Ohio. We also have observed private campgrounds not wanting to enforce the rules for various reasons. One in particular was an evening in a campground in the Hocking Hills area that resulted in a large out of control pool party going on until after 2AM because the owner did not want to deal with the rowdy crowd until so many campers complained he was forced end the party. The same such incidents do not occur in state parks without the violators being thrown out or arrested by the rangers.
momschool07 wrote: I'm curious - how do you feel about locals coming into the campground to use the pool?
I "feel" it is the owner's campground and is free to make whatever rules he or she deems appropriate. I also "feel" that if I don't like a situation in a campground, I will just find another place rather than whine and complain. Not sure about your RV, but mine has wheels for a purpose.
First of all, the owner does not live on site and has no idea what goes on other than what the management reports.
Secondly, we live here FT, not seasonal, we have local jobs and it is not feasible for us to just pack up and move just because of some bad apples in the pool - we can deal with that - management is on our side. These "locals" will not be back again as of this morning when I spoke to management.
Thirdly, I was not whining and complaining. I asked for opinions and I described a situation that I witnessed. I wanted to get a general idea about what different campgrounds offer and what everyone else had experienced.
P.S. If this is the same Wayne I know from this campground, and I hope it's not, shame on you for not confronting me with your opinion. If you're not Wayne B. from this campground, ignore this P.S.
No I am not the Wayne from the campground. You live full time there and I suppose you have become the least bit protective regarding your "space." It is annoying when anyone ruins an opportunity to use an amenity you have paid for, but perhaps since you have categorized the offenders in a tone that came across as "not as good as thou", it is hard to support your position. You referenced seasonals and full time residents, but what about overnighters. Are they held in the same disregard as the "locals?"
Once again, I am not an elitist. If you read all of my post(s) on this subject, you will find that I only held the one family/group in disregard. As for the "not good as thou" comment YES I consider myself better mannered than them. I follow rules, clean up after myself and would turn down my music if it was too loud.
Overnighters are campers, but the ones who overnight here are usually over the age of 50.
Maybe since your being so defensive, you were one of the ones in the pool!
Nuff said!
I've made my point and now I am finished, I hope you are too!
Good night!
As for as being a Christian we should be Christ like.....brings the question "what would Jesus do?" I dont know if he would turn them away....we should try to be a light to all men...even loud rude nasty ones......makes me think of scribes and pharasees......
We have experienced this at one place we stay at in upper Michigan. It is supposed to be a "Resort" Campground. It's expensive. We were disappointed to learn last year they also let the "Locals" (Defined as Neighbors of the Campground) into the Pool area for a small fee and once you are that far in you can go anywhere, so no security in that at all. These are people living in homes surrounding the campground and they walk in. Adding their numbers into the pool area with a campground this size it does make it pretty crowded all around it and in the water. We end up avoiding those times which is really prime pool time. They also have access to the Snack Area, CampStore and Lounge, basically the run of the place.
Now how can it be fair to the campers there footing the majority of the bill for our getaway place, to have to rearrange our pool times to avoid the overcrowded pool area when the walkin's are only paying like $2.50 to get in and we are paying $45+ a night to have all those amenities?? I think it is Reasonable to expect a "Resort" Campground to act and seem like a "Resort" Campground.
For the number of sites filled in every night paying these rates, I think it's not the thing to be allowing since you don't find out about it until you get there and see what is going on.
In momschool's case, being Full Time Residents, it is Reasonable to expect to have Some influence over Management to have the Published Campground Rules Enforced Equally. That's not being Elitist, it's getting what you are paying for. Either they live up to their own policies or time to move elsewhere where Management cares about their base customers who provide their core income. That's where the wheels come into play.
I agree on the Ohio State Parks too. It's what we do most of the time for local camping. Rangers usually patrolling all night long.
Overcrowding of a facility is no fun for anyone involved, and would make me wonder just what am I paying $45 a night for? After all, the point of camping is to get away from a lot of other people.
If I were the OP I would start looking for a different campground. It's not worth the stress.
lat471 wrote: In and around the pool in swimsuits. How do you tell the difference between campers and visitors? Same rule should apply to both.
I have to agree, the OP's statement smacks of elitism which I always find distasteful. Everyone should follow the rules.
Since I live in the campground, I know who are the campers and who pays. Campers walk to the pool while the locals pull up in their cars and unload all their pool stuff.
We camp with 6 kids or more sometimes between the two of us that normally go. We do not always walk to the pool, sometimes we do indeed pull up in our car & unload all our pool stuff, coolers included if we are going to be there a while. So i find that statement a little off, if you will, in that you can't always tell who is who for one reason or another.
That said, if the park is open about it offering their pool as a community pool, then you have two choices 1) leave & find another campground if you are unhappy with it 2) speak to management & mention that behavior & respect should be expected from ALL who use the pool & ask them to monitor it a little more closely.
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Tami - this campground is not very big, and I do know who are the campers and who are the "day swimmers"
We live and work here in the community, and cannot just pack up and leave.
Since my OP, management has been monitoring all pool activity because of multiple complaints. (and no, not all complaints came from me)
This is a beautiful, peaceful, safe campground. There is a waiting list to live here. I am not going to pack up and leave just because of people breaking the rules.
For everyone's information - the majority of campers and residents here are retired, over the age of 50 and very respectful of others, that is why we chose to live here. There are very few young families that come in here simply because there are no kids activities.
Some of you took offense to my OP, calling me an elitist and making statements to the effect that I may be misjudging people. Well, if you read my OP - I was NOT judging anyone. I asked for opinions and I shared a negative experience. I suggest that in the future, you read the OP very carefully and not jump to conclusions.
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momschool07 wrote: I sent an e-mail to the management and they were very nice but basically said their hands are tied. Because of the economy, they won't turn anyone away.
I would have told them in person. If they complain about money or the economy I would have asked for a refund on the spot because I intended on moving. They also can enforce the pool rules about behavior.
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