dav5942
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hohenwald48 wrote:Hey folks, just obey the law and then you don't have to worry about it. If you break the law and don't pay your taxes then us poor folks who try to do the right thing have to pay your share in addition to our own fair share and I hope you get caught at it.
Unfortunately the tax laws(especially the state sales tax laws-with no standarization from one state to the next) are so complicated many end up paying more than they should and many end up paying less than they should without even knowing it. And don't believe for one minute that accounts, tax lawyers, etc. will have all the answers. As long as they remain complicated it behoves the payor to take every avenue possible to minimize their taxes(within the law of couse).
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st687
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This is a good one, I talked to a couple at LD in Tampa, there motorhome tags are from Montana,there car tag is from Ca.I asked him how that worked and he said he owns property in Montana and lives in Ca. he had a letter from Ca. telling him he has to pay the sales tax in Ca. because he has a Ca. drivers license even if the coach is registered to his property in Montana.
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Horsedoc
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Obeying the law here in Georgia involes 7% sales tax (I just paid over 10 thousand in tax on the MH we jsut bought) and an ad valorum tax (sort of a property tax on what is not real property) that will cost me (probably) close to two thousand each year for the first 5 years.
I looked hard for a legal way around all this, but the ideas I had suggested to me all were sort of shady sounding. Had a lawyer in Montana who does this sort of LLC stuff tell me I should let it alone if the MN spent more than 6 months in Ga.
If we full timed, I might try registering in another state, but right now looks like we are nailed to the tax tree with big spikes
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stouffer
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st687, did he say how Califirnia found out he had an RV?
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msmith1199
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st687 wrote:This is a good one, I talked to a couple at LD in Tampa, there motorhome tags are from Montana,there car tag is from Ca.I asked him how that worked and he said he owns property in Montana and lives in Ca. he had a letter from Ca. telling him he has to pay the sales tax in Ca. because he has a Ca. drivers license even if the coach is registered to his property in Montana.
But I bet his motorhome spends most of its time in California. What this guy should do is sell his property in California, move to Montana, get a Montana drivers license and then he'll be fine. But if he wants to live in California then like the rest of us here, he's stuck with our taxes.
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msmith1199
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stouffer wrote:st687, did he say how Califirnia found out he had an RV?
Could be any number of ways, but like I told somebody on here earlier, the California Highway Patrol works these cases. They will go and look through residential neighborhoods and RV storage lots and look for out of state plates. What they have been known to do then is simply keep coming back and see if the RV is still there. For example if you keep your RV at your house and the plate is visible, they may simply come back once a month for a year to see that the vehicle is still there. If it's in a storage lot all they have to do is walk in the office and ask how long its been there.
The one thing you don't want to do in California is if you ever get a letter about your out of state motorhome being in the state, you don't want to go to DMV and sign a form that falsely reports how long the vehicle has been in the state. Tell the truth on those DMV forms because if they sent you the letter, they may know full well how long your motorhome has been in California. Now you've just turned your case into a felony.
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stouffer
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I was wondering because I had heard last year that a couple of states were trying to get records from Montana and I think Texas was one of them. At that time Montana was not cooperating. If that story was true it's hard to imagine why Montana wouldn't want to cooperate. It doesn't sound like Montana gains a whole lot when a resident of another state registers a motorhome with an LLC set up in Montana.
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chastho
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Mandolin Guy wrote:When is Montana going to change their laws because they realize they're losing a lot of revenue or that they're assisting others in evading taxes in other states? How is MT losing money?? They are making a lot of money off of these LLCs. Why should MT worry about states that raise taxes so high that makes people start looking for an out. Why does it bother people when others have a MT LLC?
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Mandolin Guy
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I see your point about Montana not losing money.
I think it bothers people because most think that everyone should pay their fair share. If a person lives in one state and registers their MH in Montana using an LLC, they're avoiding the taxes that support the community they live in, thus they are getting the benefits but not paying for them. That's kind of like being on welfare.
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chuck4788
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st687 wrote:This is a good one, I talked to a couple at LD in Tampa, there motorhome tags are from Montana,there car tag is from Ca.I asked him how that worked and he said he owns property in Montana and lives in Ca. he had a letter from Ca. telling him he has to pay the sales tax in Ca. because he has a Ca. drivers license even if the coach is registered to his property in Montana.
Owning property in a state does not make you a resident, this guy has a CA driver's license and a CA car, I bet he is a CA resident and keeps his MH there; so of course he owes CA the tax money, and maybe penalties.
States usually requires a physical presence in the state to get a driver's license which is one indicator of residency. Registering to vote and period of time living in a state are also indicators of residency. Owning property means nothing, other wise renters would not be residents.
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