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Pagoo1

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Posted: 06/27/08 09:05pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Does the alternator work 15 mpg worth harder?


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sirdrakejr wrote:

Yes, when the power is being taken from an altenator it DOES work harder to produce it. It free wheels until it is needed to provide that power. One HP equals about one KW. That is why most HD trucks have HD altenators. Like one poster said, "Nothing comes for free!"
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Then, as a fuel conservation measure (and to reduce emissions and slow "global warming"), perhaps "daytime running lights" should be outlawed. No more "lights on for safety", not on cars, not on trucks, not even on motorcycles. No more air conditioning, either, that compressor REALLY sucks up fuel!
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Posted: 06/27/08 09:47pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Pagoo1 wrote:

. Does turning on your headlights or some other 10-15 amp item rob your car of 15 mpg? Also, the alternator is always running anyway, it's not harder for the engine to turn the alternator when something's drawing power, is it?

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Of course it is!!. Otherwise why would a 10 kw generator have a larger engine than a 5 kw generator?


The guy CLAIMS to be getting 15 mpg more. Thats like saying he is generating enough hydrogen to get 15 mpg if that was the only fuel he was running. I would venture a guess that that is a much larger amount of hydrogen than you can produce from a mason jar of water and a car battery.


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Who cares? If the thing gets you better mileage who cares? Better mileage is better mileage. There are so many people installing these things and reporting better mileage, all the while people who don't have one installed and claim it doesn't work and make irrelevant perpetual motion comparisons. I don't have one, but alot of people say it works, so I am more inclined to believe people that have one, and claim that it is working than those that don't have one and say that it doesn't or can't work. If it works, it works and no physics law can get around it that. I remember in physics class that a bumble bee can't fly either.

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Posted: 06/27/08 10:27pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

YEah, I forgot, if you want it to work then don't let the fundamental forces of the universe stand in your way.

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Jumbo Cranium wrote:

YEah, I forgot, if you want it to work then don't let the fundamental forces of the universe stand in your way.

There were once "fundamentals" that said the earth was flat.
Bill Gates once said "10 GBs is more than enough space for anyone".
Things change in the universe. In a 1000 years Einstein may be proven wrong who knows.

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1000 years? There are already scientists who are questioning his "theory of relativity", and saying (quietly) that the speed of light just might not be an absolute limit.
Remember, Thomas Midgely swore under oath that Tetra-Ethyl lead was perfectly safe, and there was NO other compound that would do the job as an anti-knock additive. Neither statement was true, and he knew it. "Scientist"? yeah, right.

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mowermech wrote:

1000 years? There are already scientists who are questioning his "theory of relativity", and saying (quietly) that the speed of light just might not be an absolute limit.
Remember, Thomas Midgely swore under oath that Tetra-Ethyl lead was perfectly safe, and there was NO other compound that would do the job as an anti-knock additive. Neither statement was true, and he knew it. "Scientist"? yeah, right.

good point. some things in our lifetime.

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I don't understand this forum, a forum I"ve been on for years. The other day I posted something about HHO, something I just started reading about. I got slammed saying this has been on this forum many many times in the past however I"ve never read about it here. My thread was closed, why?

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Ya i started a thread on this several months ago. Lots of negitivity then, but this topic is getting hot on the net.

Thought this video was interesting. 2 guys making and testing a HHO generator. Was amazed at the amount of HHO they produced with 2 amps.


Here’s what we show in this clip:

1. the test fuel cell hanging in pure water, with 2 amps DC running through it and producing hydrogen and oxygen (two hydrogen for one oxygen, which is the explosive HHO mixture)

2. the HHO fuel cell in its case and bubbling the hydrogen gas through water, which we timed and caught in a jar to measure production.

3. the HHO hydrogen generator bubbling into soapy water, so we can catch the bubbles to light them with a BBQ lighter. This is really loud, like ear splitting. It’s hard to believe how much force there is in just a little of this gas.

4. the hydrogen fuel cell hooked up and running the HHO to a Ford half ton. We used an older vehicle, just in case something went wrong. Expendable trucks first, please!

HHO

Third video clip down.


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