These are not legal for the road (even if you are crazy and take it out there), they are not allowed on the sidewalks as they do have a motor. So the only place to ride is off road or in a campground that would allow them. You cannot get them insured either. I have a 50cc that I ride in campgounds and can ride on the back streets as it does have a Plate from the state. I would not take in anyplace that has a speed limit greater than 35mph. THe reason for the 50cc is no motorcyle license is required for 50cc and under.
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These are not legal for the road (even if you are crazy and take it out there), they are not allowed on the sidewalks as they do have a motor. So the only place to ride is off road or in a campground that would allow them. You cannot get them insured either. I have a 50cc that I ride in campgounds and can ride on the back streets as it does have a Plate from the state. I would not take in anyplace that has a speed limit greater than 35mph. THe reason for the 50cc is no motorcyle license is required for 50cc and under.
Maybe they are not legal in your state but they are street legal in Colorado. Also, as for riding on the sidewalk, don't ride your bicycle on the sidewalk in Colorado Springs as that is against the law.
The subject matter is the discussion of scooters, mopeds, not whether any of them are street legal.
NGRRFan wrote: The subject matter is the discussion of scooters, mopeds, not whether any of them are street legal.
Actually I believe the subject matter was scooters in lieu of driving the truck to work/ on errands, which would necessitate them being street legal.
I notice in all of this that everybody seems fixated on actual scooters. I've considered similar but was looking more along the lines of a 250cc dual purpose motorcycle. At 280 pounds a Kawasaki KLX 250S wouldn't weigh any much more than a lot of these scoots, is street legal, still gets 60mpg, and can run at speeds making it much safer than some scoots which will be hard pressed to do over 50mph. Just something else to think about.
Two things...
I never said not to buy a Chinese... just that there is more involved for that cheaper price. I have 2 of them, and they have been fine. Not everyone is that lucky. Parts are more available now than ever. You can get them, but don't expect your seller to repair it for you, they will just send you parts. You get to install them.
Secondly, there are many types & sizes of scooters. My 250cc scooter will go 75 with 2 up on the highway. It is a Honda Reflex clone.
Basically, a 50cc is good for anything you would consider riding a bicycle to, a 125 or 150cc is good for longer or faster commutes. A 250cc or larger is good for most anything.
Also, laws vary by state... check yours before you buy something you can't ride/register.
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Brent
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NGRRFan wrote: The subject matter is the discussion of scooters, mopeds, not whether any of them are street legal.
Actually I believe the subject matter was scooters in lieu of driving the truck to work/ on errands, which would necessitate them being street legal.
I understand what you are saying, but I am saying that in Colorado the Whizzer is street legal. Now other states may have laws that might exclude them from being street legal but we aren't necessarily talking about those states, we're talking about states in general. Each person needs to research their particular states laws and decide what will work best for them.
Quote: I notice in all of this that everybody seems fixated on actual scooters. I've considered similar but was looking more along the lines of a 250cc dual purpose motorcycle. At 280 pounds a Kawasaki KLX 250S wouldn't weigh any much more than a lot of these scoots, is street legal, still gets 60mpg, and can run at speeds making it much safer than some scoots which will be hard pressed to do over 50mph. Just something else to think about.
Part of this depends on the streets that you have to drive on. If the main speed limits are 35 or less then a larger motorcycle may not make sense. If you are on higher speed limited streets or highways then you want/need the power to keep up with the flow of traffic.
I've often thought that a mid-sized motorcycle might be the best for me, as you have said. Anything that gets better fuel mileage than what I drive is a good solution for cutting my fuel costs but then again when I weight the pros and cons I'm able to drive my mini-van almost 6 weeks on a tank of gas simply because my trips are less than a mile or two.
Not to change the subject, but, I was wallydocking this past weekend , put out a 5 gallon empty bucket asking for donations for fuel. Got 167.00. Who needs a scooter?
I remember these bikes were great on the level, but hell on hills. They didn't have enough power to take me to the top and they were too heavy to pedal, so I ended up pushing them.
I have a buddy 125 made by the original scooter company.
They are about $2,000.00 new. Can go about 55 or 60 with a 200 pounder on it, scoots around town great. Pick up from a light is good, keeps up with traffic.
Get's close to 100 miles on a gallon of gas. You can fit a good amount of groceries or beverages under the seat.
Don't forget, in most states if it can go 30 mph, you need a motorcycle license/endorcement and follow helmet laws. And also don't forget, even though it may be a cute little scooter, it hurts just as much to crash it as a motorcycle.
Don't know about the whole cost justification, but the thing is a hell of a lot of fun to ride, and a lot easier to park than my Dually!
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