joanne0012 wrote: Maybe you need to recruit some health professionals, and/or sports physiology experts, to talk some sense into him.
I second that. People like this could point out the liabilities (legal and professional) of his decision and the initial impression it would make if people started dropping like flies. Bad judgement may provide an unwanted bench mark for future decisions that go awry, thus "getting off on the wrong foot".
CatandJim wrote: for many years the deliver trucks weren't allowed to be equipped with air conditioning, not even a 12 volt fan!! In the heat of a Texas summer, sitting in Dallas traffic you can imagine how HOT that could be. Our turn over rate for delivery drivers was very high from May to October, wonder why?
This was the way UPS treated their delivery drivers for years. I'm not sure if the new delivery trucks are ordered with A/C now, but up to 2003 they were not.
Nope--also still no radios, and no power steering until about 10 years ago (when everybody made it standard). Ditto for the FedEx trucks, DHL vans, and lots of bread & potato chip trucks (basically, 99% of Stepvan-type trucks have no A/C).
A local liquor company had, until recently, bought trucks without A/C--their current fleet workhorse, a fleet of aging (late-80's to about 1994) cab-forward Mack Managers, have no A/C, and were their first trucks with radios and power steering. They just bought a bunch of new Kenworths, which came with CD players, 6-speed automatic transmissions, and A/C (standard). The company removed the air conditioning.
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Washing-out the people that can't handle a little heat, is one step in finding worthy employees. It ain't rocket science to drive a truck, and people need jobs in this competitive environment.
But of course Joe.... and perhaps you should have said OTHER people need jobs. So if it doesn't have an effect on you it doesn't matter? As for me, I always understood why some of my employees couldn't stand the heat so to speak. I had one male and one female delivery driver get quite ill from the heat. Two different store locations, one in Dallas the other in Abilene, both were on days that the high was 104 +. They had the classic symptoms of heat stroke. Luckily they didn't require hospitalization.
My husband works in a manufacturing environment, his crew works many 12 hour days in a metal building in the heat of an Oklahoma summer. I suppose you might say that last week when three of their five circulation fans stopped working that they shouldn't have wanted them fixed? After all, it's a competitive work environment. Since my DH is a supervisor he made sure those fans got rewired, one replaced and all were working by the next morning.
Back to the original topic, I guess some people (besides Doug's new boss) think the idea of standing outside in wool robes in the summer is just a part of the job requirement? I certainly don't, it's bad judgment just like not providing a way for employees who work in this heat a way to cool down. It truly can be a disaster waiting to happen.
Cat
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CatandJim wrote: My husband works in a manufacturing environment, his crew works many 12 hour days in a metal building in the heat of an Oklahoma summer. I suppose you might say that last week when three of their five circulation fans stopped working that they shouldn't have wanted them fixed? After all, it's a competitive work environment. Since my DH is a supervisor he made sure those fans got rewired, one replaced and all were working by the next morning.
Back to the original topic, I guess some people (besides Doug's new boss) think the idea of standing outside in wool robes in the summer is just a part of the job requirement? I certainly don't, it's bad judgment just like not providing a way for employees who work in this heat a way to cool down. It truly can be a disaster waiting to happen.
I don't know, but it sounds like Jim should contact your nearest OSHA office. I recall he was severly injured by scalding or trauma at this place a few months ago.....so maybe an investigation needs to take place. Perhaps Doug can contact OSHA as well, and research his unsafe workplace environment too. Heat is one thing, but OSHA can advise on both of these I'm sure. Good luck.
Skid Row Joe wrote: I don't know, but it sounds like Jim should contact your nearest OSHA office. I recall he was severly injured by scalding or trauma at this place a few months ago.....so maybe an investigation needs to take place.
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Your memory is a bit off Joe. He was burnt (on his arm) almost 2 years ago when a hose failed under presser. He pushed one of his crew members out of the way of the scalding water and in doing so it hit his arm. Equipment fails from time to time and in a manufacturing environment it needs to be repaired. No need to contact OSHA over a hose failing under pressure or a fan that goes out causing some wiring problems with two more that run in succession. Hard working folks just get it repaired and continue to work.
CatandJim wrote: Your memory is a bit off Joe. He was burnt (on his arm) almost 2 years ago when a hose failed under presser. He pushed one of his crew members out of the way of the scalding water and in doing so it hit his arm. Equipment fails from time to time and in a manufacturing environment it needs to be repaired. No need to contact OSHA over a hose failing under pressure or a fan that goes out causing some wiring problems with two more that run in succession. Hard working folks just get it repaired and continue to work.
I'm glad I only have a little heat getting in and out of the motorcoach to put up with in commission of my work duties. No complaints here. If the job isn't living up to your expectations, I'd look elsewhere. Glad I don't have to work in dangerous places like that, since decades ago. Good luck.
Skid Row Joe wrote: I'm glad I only have a little heat getting in and out of the motorcoach to put up with in commission of my work duties. No complaints here. If the job isn't living up to your expectations, I'd look elsewhere. Glad I don't have to work in dangerous places like that, since decades ago. Good luck.
LOL I have no idea where you come up this stuff Joe. There was not a single complaint from my husband or me.... except for maybe you looking down your uplifted nose on people who work hard for a living.
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Since my DH is a supervisor he made sure those fans got rewired, one replaced and all were working by the next morning.
