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broomhandle

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The county I placed my trailer in will not allow having a permanent trailer under 800 sq. ft. placed on your land. They said I could place my 27 ft. TT on my land if I left the tires on, no skirting, no removing tongue, installing septic, etc. Essentially, the trailer has to remain portable and temporary.
My tires are resting on treated 2 by 6's. Will this exentually ruin the tires and if so, how can I get the tires up off the surface permanently ?

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How about putting jacks under the frame, before and after the tires on both sides ? You could jack it enough to remove the load from the tires and have a much more stable trailer. Simple scissor jacks would do.

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Broom....
I used the screw jacks as well as the stabilizer jacks to make my trailer on a permanent site very stable. The tires will still age even if you get them off the ground. They will not last any longer parked and may last less. I just figure to replace the tires if I ever want to start moving the trailer on the road. It has been parked thusly for over 3 years and I am sure the tires would not take a freeway run. I am equally sure they could be driven to the nearest tire place though.

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Ask the county if you can put covers on your tires to protect them from the harmful UV Rays.


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jtslj wrote:

Ask the county if you can put covers on your tires to protect them from the harmful UV Rays.


That's what I would do!


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Can you answer a question or two for me? I am just curious about this not intending to flame.

What is the big issue about tire and a travel trailer? I just haven't seen it explained. We drive trucks and cars and don't worry about where the tires sit. What is the real issue about parking a travel trailer and the tires? What should the tires be sitting on? If the tires are adequate to carry the trailer down the open road why are they not adequate to hold the trailer when parked? I know jack stands and such are for stability.

Can someone explain?

Thanks.

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If tires are not used often, as in sit for many months at a time, they will degrade much faster than if they are used like on a normal vehicle. The oils in the rubber >come out<, seperate, or something, and the tires dry rot. This makes them not road worthy.

The sun and UV rays will make this happen much faster so covering the tires help prolong their life.

Not a scientific explaination but worth what it costs


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Replace the tires before moving if they get to be five or more years old.
Otherwise it does not matter what they sit on as long as they do not sink into the mud.

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MScampers wrote:

Can you answer a question or two for me? I am just curious about this not intending to flame.

What is the big issue about tire and a travel trailer? I just haven't seen it explained. We drive trucks and cars and don't worry about where the tires sit. What is the real issue about parking a travel trailer and the tires? What should the tires be sitting on? If the tires are adequate to carry the trailer down the open road why are they not adequate to hold the trailer when parked? I know jack stands and such are for stability.

Can someone explain?

Thanks.


Good question as there are a lot of tire myths out there.

Tires sitting in one spot will develop a "flat spot" on the tire that could damage the cords. See the Goodyear RV Tire Guide PDF.
I use Goodyear, so I follow them.

Here are some excerpts.



Goodyear RV tires are stored deflated and unmounted
in environmentally-controlled warehouses so the
tires do not age as they would outdoors. When
tires are inflated and under pressure, they age at an
accelerated rate due to the constant pressure of air
(oxygen) against the tire.
Once installed, tires need regular use. Long storage
periods should be avoided.

A vehicle in storage should be placed on blocks to
remove weight from the tires
• If the vehicle cannot be put on blocks, follow
these steps for tire protection:
- Unload the vehicle so that minimum weight
will be placed on the tires
- Inflate tires to recommended operation
pressure plus 25%
- Ensure that the rim manufacturer’s inflation
capacity is not exceeded
- Make sure storage surface is firm, clean,
well-drained and reasonably level
- Avoid moving the vehicle during extremely
cold weather
- Move the vehicle at least every three months to
prevent ozone cracking in the tire bulge area, as
well as “flat-spotting” from prolonged strain of
sidewall and tread deflection
- Adjust inflation before putting the vehicle back
into service
Tire Appearance and Cleaning
• Tires contain additives to protect them from
cracking. As the tire rolls and flexes, these
additives rise to the surface of the rubber to
protect it.
• Goodyear tires do not require dressings,
appearance products or covers to protect them

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wintek wrote:

MScampers wrote:

Can you answer a question or two for me? I am just curious about this not intending to flame.

What is the big issue about tire and a travel trailer? I just haven't seen it explained. We drive trucks and cars and don't worry about where the tires sit. What is the real issue about parking a travel trailer and the tires? What should the tires be sitting on? If the tires are adequate to carry the trailer down the open road why are they not adequate to hold the trailer when parked? I know jack stands and such are for stability.

Can someone explain?

Thanks.


Good question as there are a lot of tire myths out there.

Tires sitting in one spot will develop a "flat spot" on the tire that could damage the cords. See the Goodyear RV Tire Guide PDF.
I use Goodyear, so I follow them.

Here are some excerpts.



Goodyear RV tires are stored deflated and unmounted
in environmentally-controlled warehouses so the
tires do not age as they would outdoors. When
tires are inflated and under pressure, they age at an
accelerated rate due to the constant pressure of air
(oxygen) against the tire.
Once installed, tires need regular use. Long storage
periods should be avoided.

A vehicle in storage should be placed on blocks to
remove weight from the tires
• If the vehicle cannot be put on blocks, follow
these steps for tire protection:
- Unload the vehicle so that minimum weight
will be placed on the tires
- Inflate tires to recommended operation
pressure plus 25%
- Ensure that the rim manufacturer’s inflation
capacity is not exceeded
- Make sure storage surface is firm, clean,
well-drained and reasonably level
- Avoid moving the vehicle during extremely
cold weather
- Move the vehicle at least every three months to
prevent ozone cracking in the tire bulge area, as
well as “flat-spotting” from prolonged strain of
sidewall and tread deflection
- Adjust inflation before putting the vehicle back
into service
Tire Appearance and Cleaning
• Tires contain additives to protect them from
cracking. As the tire rolls and flexes, these
additives rise to the surface of the rubber to
protect it.
• Goodyear tires do not require dressings,
appearance products or covers to protect them


FINALLY! The correct information!!

The TRAILER should be stored on blocks to take the weight OFF the tire.

NOT the TIRES should be on blocks!!!! Straight for the manufacturer folks!

As I've said right along, the tires don't get a "bad aura" from sitting on concrete, asphalt, or gravel that they don't get from wood blocks. Or even dirt or grass.

People call tire deterioration "rot" but it is a SLANG word. People associate REAL rot with wood and moisture, but it has NOTHING to do with tires. Water doesn't "rot" tires. Concrete, asphalt, gravel, etc doe not "suck" the "good stuph" out of tires. Pure urban myth. Tire crack on the bottom because of the stress of the "bulge" which happens to be the side next to the ground. so people erroniously assume it MUST be cause by what it is PARKED ON. WRONG!

UV rays and lack of use (rolling to bring "good stuph" to the surface of the tire) is what "rots" it. Doesn't matter what it is parked on.

Okay, done ranting now...


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