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texcamper

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Posted: 07/21/08 01:54pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have a 2006 Ford F250 (5.4 gas engine with a 3.73 rear gear, 5 speed auto) I'm attempting to approve my towing capacity on 8500 lb TT. As I see it I have the option to replace the rear end with a 4.10 differential gear or, as I've been told by a mechanic, replace the 285/70/17 AT tires with the stock 245/70/17 tires. The mechanic said the small tire would have the same effect as a larger differential gear - better towing capacity and less strain on the TV. If this works, I'd have to invest in a set of tires not an expensive gear change.

Has anyone tried this?

And I know I should trade the TV in for a diesel but that's not an option now.

* This post was edited 07/21/08 02:25pm by texcamper *


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Posted: 07/21/08 01:58pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It will work.

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Yes, tire size will effect gearing. How much depends on the difference in the circumference/diameter of the tires. I imagine it would take a lot smaller tire to make up the difference between 3.73 and 4.10 gears, but you would gain some.

I did some checking and your diameter difference would be almost 13% (depending on make of tire) which is a pretty good number for towing.

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Posted: 07/21/08 02:17pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It's a no brainer. Smaller tires equals more power.

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Posted: 07/21/08 02:19pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm running Toyo Open County 285/70/17, showing a diameter of 32.7"
The same tire in 245/70/17 shows a diameter of 30.6" a savings of 2.1".

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I would take your mechanics advise on this one! Sure beats spending a whole bunch of bucks on new gears if you can get enough of a ratio change and it sounds like you would.
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Posted: 07/21/08 05:40pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would save all the mod money toward the proper truck.


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Posted: 07/21/08 05:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

3.73 gear 32.7 tire @ 60 mph = 2300 rpm

4.1 gear 32.7 tire @ 60 mph = 2528 rpm

3.73 gear 30.6 tire @ 60 mph = 2457 rpm

These figures are not for O.D. but for 1-1. So changing tire only would have you within 71 rpm at 60 mph as using your present tires and doing the gear change. Kind of a no brainer to me. Besides you've got that truck overtired for the motor and gear you have. I'll bet the mileage will inprove also.


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Thanks for the help and suggestions. I guess I'll put up with the current situation until I replace the tires.

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The Cougar 302RLS is a 9,700 lbs GVWR trailer. Your truck, with stock tires, has about a tow rating from 9,300 - 10,100 lbs. I'd say put the stock tires on and you will be okay up to the GVWR of the trailer.

Changing the size of the tires will make your truck work less when towing or hauling weight, but it will not change your gear ratio. Gear ration is the amount of times your drive shaft turns for ever one revolution of your axle. That won't change with smaller tires, but the amount of distance your truck will travel in one revolution of your axle will change with smaller tires - so it basically has the same effect. Smaller tires will result in less fuel mileage.

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