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Capt Skup

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Posted: 07/28/08 07:09am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Due to the ever tightening emission regulations and subsequent cost, looks like Ford is seeking alternatives for power and cost reduction. http://www.pickuptrucks.com/html/stories........nol-boost-engines-replace-diesels-1.html

Interesting but I do not want to be a "test case" for this new technology.


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Posted: 07/28/08 07:29am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Great, maybe the demand for diesel will fall, along with the cost.


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So now I've got to fill up twice; once with gas and once with ethanol. Looks pretty interesting though.


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Posted: 07/28/08 08:10am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm no mechanical or electrical engineer, but I've often wondered about making the railway system, diesel electric engine technology 'streetable' .


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Yeah, but 10 gallons every 5000 miles ain't too bad!!!!


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CharlyG wrote:

Yeah, but 10 gallons every 5000 miles ain't too bad!!!!


I'll bet it's more than that if you are towing a lot.

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Posted: 07/28/08 11:12am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Europe was using ULSD before North America but their diesel prices compared to regular are all over the map. LINK

I think it is more an issue of taxation and as over 50% of new vehicles sold in Europe are diesel, they sure haven't given up on them.

I've noticed the same thing here. Although diesel is more expensive than regular in BC, the spread isn't nearly as great as just across the border in WA, even though the stuff is probably coming from the same refineries.


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As I read through this it seems great on paper, but with a lot of speculation and a hope that there will not be grenades going off under the hoods of these vehicles. In 3 to 5 years will there still be cheap ethanol? It is not clear what the longevity of this engine would be hauling a heavy load for a long period of time diesel engines are made heavy duty for a reason. As for the hp and torque if you look at any race car engine you already see high hp and torque but after the race the engine is in need of a complete overhaul if it makes it to the end.


When asked what the power potential of a 5.0-liter turbo V-8 with ethanol boost would be, Cohn suggested 500 horsepower with peak torque of 700 pounds-feet. Actual figures, of course, may change following durability and emissions testing.


Cohn estimates that ethanol consumption during normal driving would be about 3 percent to 5 percent of gasoline consumption because full power isn’t needed for cruising or light city driving.

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Don't think I want one in a tow vehicle but a 2 liter, direct injected, turbocharged 4 banger, putting out 250+ HP and 300 lb-ft of torque in a nice light, rear drive sporty car would sure get my attention.

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I figure Ford will write a lot of PR on it and in five years Toyota or Nissan will start selling it.

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