When making a left turn, you are supposed to go into the left most traffic lane. For right turns, you are supposed to go into the right most traffic lane. The police can issue an improper right(left) turn ticket if you don't.
Once again, you seem to be at odds with reality. What is it about the paragraph you cited you don't understand?
545.101. TURNING AT INTERSECTION. (a) To make a
right turn at an intersection, an operator shall make both the
approach and the turn as closely as practicable to the right-hand
curb or edge of the roadway
applying the English language as I understand it, that means that the operator shall enter the intersection from the right most travel lane and turn into the right most travel lane. The same concept applies to both left and right turns. The exception would be when entering an intersection with multiple turn lanes, you are required to turn into the same lane as your stared in. Meaning, if you entered the intersection from the second left turn lane, you are required to turn into the second from the left travel lane. If you entered from the third left turn lane, you are required to turn into the third from the left travel lane.
Oh, and one more thing. NO ONE has the right of way. No state assigns right of way. They do, however, require that under certain conditions, one must YIELD right of way to other vehicles.
Once again, traffic turning left is required to enter the left most travel lane, and traffic turning right is required to enter the right most travel lane.
If you have a written source that states that a vehicle entering an intersection to turn right (or left for that matter) can turn into any lane, I would love to see it.
If you look close enough, one is not allowed to change lanes while in the intersection. That would mean (even in California) that if you enter the intersection in the right lane, you must exit the intersection in the right lane.
Ken Gasbarri
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msmith1199 wrote: If there is only one lane turning left onto a road that has two lanes, then the left turner can take either lane and has the right of way, assuming he is turning on a green arrow. The green arrow would mean that the right turner coming in the opposite direction has a red light. If there is no arrow, and both vehicles have a greem, then the right turner has the right of way and can take either lane and the left turned vehicle must yield.
As I understand the rules in Texas, this is accurate.
If I have the green left turn arrow, and there is not 2 left turn lanes, I can choose whichever lane I want when I make my turn.
Matthew_B wrote: I always get annoyed with the people who don't realize that when leaving the left turn lane and going into two lanes, the left lane is theirs, and the right lane is for those making a right turn. If they come over in the right lane, they keep those from turning right from going.
That depends on the set up of the intersection. If there is only one lane turning left onto a road that has two lanes, then the left turner can take either lane and has the right of way, assuming he is turning on a green arrow. The green arrow would mean that the right turner coming in the opposite direction has a red light. If there is no arrow, and both vehicles have a greem, then the right turner has the right of way and can take either lane and the left turned vehicle must yeild.
It's an illegal turn in Oregon if you don't enter the left lane:
ORS 811.340 wrote: 811.340 Improperly executed left turn; penalty. (1) A person commits the offense of making an improperly executed left turn if the person operates a vehicle and is intending to turn the vehicle to the left and the person does not:
(a) Approach the turn in the extreme left-hand lane lawfully available to traffic moving in the direction of travel of the turning vehicle;
(b) Make the left turn to the left of the center of the intersection whenever practicable; and
(c) Except as otherwise allowed by ORS 811.346, leave the intersection or other location in the extreme left-hand lane lawfully available to traffic moving in the same direction as such vehicle on the roadway being entered.
(2) The offense described in this section, improperly executing a left turn, is a Class B traffic violation.
Bold is mine.
811.346 says it's also OK to enter the left turn lane and wait for traffic when entering from an alley or driveway.
This makes sense, doesn't it? You can get traffic through the intersection faster if both the left turn and right turn cars can proceed at the same time. That's assuming people follow the law... and many here don't.
Probably has something to do with 1/2 of the people who live here come from California, where the law is different.
TCINTN wrote: You should stop so as to see the back tires so that if you get rear ended, you will not the vehicle in front of you and you stop a car length from intersection is if rear ended you will not go out into the traffic. Now, that is what I was instructed in about 15 driving schools while working. It eventually becomes a habit.
On June 16, 2007, I was first in line when I stopped at a traffic light. Before the light turned green I was rear ended by a driver who did not apply brakes while traveling at sufficient speed to drive into my trunk and push us both 191 feet from the spot at which I was stopped. I don't think 2 or 4 distances from the stop light line would have prevented me from going into the intersection.
Our daughter made a left turn onto a road with 2 lanes going in her direction and on a regular green light in both directions with no oncoming traffic. She had to turn into a store parking lot that was on the right shortly after the intersection so she entered the right lane. Cop followed her into the parking lot and gave her a ticket for failing to maintain proper lane protocol. Left turn into left lane until turn is completed and then merge to right. Happened 4 years ago in SC.
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In my younger years (about) 25 years ago I went to lunch with an older man.
He was getting upset at aggressive drivers that were wound up so tight that they were mad, they were behind him and they made it obvious.
This old man says "watch this guy behind me" as he stopped two car lengths back at a red light in a STRAIGHT through lane. Only 3 cars behind.
The person behind him honked his horn, was very upset and was throwing his arms in the air while he looked all around for supporters.
The light turned green everyone made it through and he passed petal to the metal.
This old man did nothing wrong. In fact he taught me a lesson about the unpredictable habits of other drivers. We have seen breathalyzers installed in cars but I think we need a machine to detect high blood pressure. If over XXX car will stall (within 60 seconds). Until lowered it will not start. Lives would be saved.
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I haven't seen four car lengths, but one or two from the stop line gets me. If I'm in the next lane and rolling up to a red light and the next driver has stopped a lenght or two back from the line I usually make sure I do too. I'm a guy and if its a lady they usually pull up to the line to get away. Its a hoot. If I saw four car lenghts in front of them I'd pull over into their lane.
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Once again, you seem to be at odds with reality. What is it about the paragraph you cited you don't understand?
545.101. TURNING AT INTERSECTION. (a) To make a
right turn at an intersection, an operator shall make both the
approach and the turn as closely as practicable to the right-hand
curb or edge of the roadway
applying the English language as I understand it, that means that the operator shall enter the intersection from the right most travel lane and turn into the right most travel lane. The same concept applies to both left and right turns. The exception would be when entering an intersection with multiple turn lanes, you are required to turn into the same lane as your stared in. Meaning, if you entered the intersection from the second left turn lane, you are required to turn into the second from the left travel lane. If you entered from the third left turn lane, you are required to turn into the third from the left travel lane.
Oh, and one more thing. NO ONE has the right of way. No state assigns right of way. They do, however, require that under certain conditions, one must YIELD right of way to other vehicles.
Once again, traffic turning left is required to enter the left most travel lane, and traffic turning right is required to enter the right most travel lane.
If you have a written source that states that a vehicle entering an intersection to turn right (or left for that matter) can turn into any lane, I would love to see it.
If you look close enough, one is not allowed to change lanes while in the intersection. That would mean (even in California) that if you enter the intersection in the right lane, you must exit the intersection in the right lane.
Ken Gasbarri
Sorry, but you are not reading that law correctly. First of all, you completly left out the part about the left turn which said you can finish your turn in any lane available for traffic flowing in that direction. And you also misread the right turn law. It said you must make the APPROACH and the TURN from as close to the right hand curb as possible. It says nothing out ending the turn.
As for your semantics about right-of-way, I disagree. Just curious, how long did you spend as a traffic cop? I was assigned to traffic for two years out of my 25 in law enforcement.
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msmith1199 wrote: If there is only one lane turning left onto a road that has two lanes, then the left turner can take either lane and has the right of way, assuming he is turning on a green arrow. The green arrow would mean that the right turner coming in the opposite direction has a red light. If there is no arrow, and both vehicles have a greem, then the right turner has the right of way and can take either lane and the left turned vehicle must yield.
As I understand the rules in Texas, this is accurate.
If I have the green left turn arrow, and there is not 2 left turn lanes, I can choose whichever lane I want when I make my turn.
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