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TM 85.08, -0.97, -1.1%) said March sales fell 10% to 217,730 from 242,675 a year earlier.
Total passenger car sales fell to 129,778 from 140,009, and light truck sales declined to 87,952 from 102,666. Toyota brand sales fell 9.8% to 192,791 vehicles from 213,820, and its luxury Lexus division saw sales fall 14% to 24,939 units from 28,855 in.
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HMC 31.93, -0.07, -0.2%) reported that sales dropped more than 3% to 138,734 units from 143,392 a year ago. March U.S. sales of the Civic rose to 32,740 vehicles from 29,721 a year ago, while Pilot sales dropped to 10,168 vehicles from 14,339. E-mail
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NSANY 14.40, -0.91, -5.9%) said North American sales fell 3.8% to 106,921 vehicles from 111,119 a year ago. Nissan brand sales fell to 93,100 vehicles from 97,242 a year ago, and Infiniti sales slid to 13,821 units from 13,877 last year.

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Porsche (DE:693773: news, chart, profile) reported a 25% decline to 2,467 units from 3,278 in March 2007. Strong sales of the Cayenne SUV were not enough to offset weakness from the German automaker's sports car lineup.
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DAI 56.64, -1.05, -1.8%) , said March U.S. sales dropped to 20,808 vehicles from 21,612 a year ago. Sales of C-class vehicles showed the strongest sales gain, with 6,713 units compared to 4,486 last March. E-Class sales dropped to 3,039 units from 4,019 a year earlier.
BMW (DE:519000: news, chart, profile) posted March sales of 27,404 vehicles, down 5.4% from 28,980 a year ago. Sales of BMW brand vehicles dropped 8.7% to 23,115 units, while Mini sales rose 17.3% to 4,289 for the same period

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Who knows how long it will last but so far Canada seems to be bucking that trend.

For July

GM +5.2%
Ford -13.7%
Chrysler -7.6%
Toyota +18%
Honda +17%
Nissan +27%

The big increases in Japanese sales are in their most fuel efficient models, their truck sales are pretty much in the tank like everyone else. Surprise surprise.


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But neither Honda or Toyota are worried about Chapter 11 nor the losses the Big Three are having.


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Everybody's sales are down so what's your point?


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Ron3rd wrote:

Everybody's sales are down so what's your point?


That would be my point there Ron....everyday I see good-ole Capt Skup and PSD....no it's Van 8.1 now a days right, posting Chrysler this and Ford that and GM lost this, but how come when anything negative comes out about the Import transplants you don’t see them post anything about their sales tanking just the Domestics.

Just thought I would point this out, also noticed you didn’t post this question on any of their postings there Ron, wonder way that is, do tell Ron. Maybe it has to do with the truck you drive?

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Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Ron3rd wrote:

Everybody's sales are down so what's your point?


That would be my point there Ron....everyday I see good-ole Capt Skup and PSD....no it's Van 8.1 now a days right, posting Chrysler this and Ford that and GM lost this, but how come when anything negative comes out about the Import transplants you don’t see them post anything about their sales tanking just the Domestics.

Just thought I would point this out, also noticed you didn’t post this question on any of their postings there Ron, wonder way that is, do tell Ron. Maybe it has to do with the truck you drive?

Don


Don, Ron makes a good point. Notice the Big 3 are showing the largest loss numbers. ALL auto sales are down except for the small high mileage ones. FWIW I thought I read a recent report that Honda had sales grow last quarter. It wasn't a lot but it was not the loss you link shows. They are selling Civics like hotcakes. Honda also did not get as armpit deep in truck sales as Toyota and the Big 3 and even Nissan to an extent. Their gas hogs are the Pilot and Ridgeline. A total of two.


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Keith I’m not slamming Ron or anyone else that drives an import but there are a few on this board that for some warped reason seem to take pride in the fact that the Big Three are in a fight for their life and are not faring very well. My post was in response to the recent postings making it look like only the Big Three are in a slump.

Maybe it’s jealousy over our wage and benefits package, maybe it’s just they don’t under stand that if the Big Three close there won’t be a livable wage in America or Canada for that matter.

For all you guys that think your middle management jobs are safe you had better think again. And for the few of you non union workers that are making a livable wage right now, you are in for a rude awakening. When our jobs go and or wages drop what do you think is going to happen to yours, that’s right there going to drop as well.
Only your $15/20 dollar an hour job will go down to $8/15 if you’re lucky without any bennies.

Not looking for a Union verses Non Union debate only pointing out the direction this Country is heading.

One last thought the workers have no control over the direction the Big Three go, as in what cars and trucks we build, Management does that. When I started at Chrysler I said or asked why it was we don’t build any fuel efficient vehicles (well there was the Neon)? I asked this again in 2002 when I (a lowly Tool Maker) could see that putting a Hemi in everything we build was not a real bright thing to do. “Hay does that thing Got a Hemi?” will only get you so far guys. The whole time Daimler owned us the only thing they did for Chrysler was dig us a Grave! I can only hope that now that they are gone we can work our way back out of the hole those Ignorant Morons put us in. And don’t tell me that they didn’t see this coming because if they didn’t God help the Heavy Truck Divisions they stole from Chrysler.

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And don’t tell me that they didn’t see this coming because if they didn’t God help the Heavy Truck Divisions they stole from Chrysler

May I ask what Heavy Truck divisions? They already have Mercedes; Sterling, Freightliner and Mitsubish Trucks.

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Freightliner along with Thomas Bus was owed by Chrysler long before Daimler (Dammlire) took over. Were do you think all of Chryslers cash went after the take over, Daimler (see above) went on a buying frenzy and bought Sterling Truck along with 5 other Companies. Do a search and you will find this out.
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They were actually owned by White Motor Corp. That is what made me scratch my head when you said Chryslers Heavy truck division.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freightliner_LLC

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