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moloss

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Posted: 08/02/08 09:24pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I want some opinions on what to do with the rear end of my truck.....when it's loaded with either the gooseneck or the truck camper my rear sits lower than the front.....the truck has the factory overload spring but I'm looking for a way to keep it from squating to much......what would y'all do? thanks....

* This post was edited 08/03/08 07:00am by moloss *


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Posted: 08/02/08 09:32pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Weigh the loaded and unloaded rig to determine EXACTLY how much load you are talking about and then come back with some numbers for opinions.


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Posted: 08/02/08 10:23pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Head off to a good truck spring shop loaded. They should be able to hook you up after a few measurements.

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Posted: 08/02/08 10:26pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Firestone Ride-Rite airbags.

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Posted: 08/02/08 10:29pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

There are a myriad of suspension upgrade options available...

Tork Lift has the Stable Loads, which are bushings that install on the overload spring frame bumpers that effectively lower the height of the bumpers so the overload spring contacts the bumpers sooner and helps keep the truck from sagging so much.

Another option is to take the truck to a spring shop and have them re-arc the overload spring so it is taller and contacts the bumpers sooner.

Another option is to have the spring shop add leafs under the single overload leaf to make it a multi-leaf pack that can take more weight.

Another option is to add a helper leaf or two to the main leaf pack.

Another option is to replace the stock leaf packs with heavy duty leaf packs or have a local spring shop build heavy duty leaf packs for the truck, or you can order a set of heavy duty leaf packs from a spring supplier and put them on yourself or have a mechanic put them on for you. I got my heavy duty leaf packs from Stengel Bros.

There are also aftermarket add-on helper spring solutions such as Firestone Ride Rite or Air-Lift air bags, Super Springs helper leafs, Timbren rubber helper springs, Roadmaster helper springs, Helwig helper springs, and probly a number of others I don't remember.

The only ones to stay away from are air shocks or coil-over shocks. Your shock mounts were never intended to support the weight of the vehicle. Also be careful with air bags and timbrens that you do not depend on them to hold up the weight of the truck and take the weight off the springs, as your frame was not made to support all the weight at one point. They are fine for helping out the springs though if used judiciously.

Prepare to be thoroughly confused by all the possibilities as each person who responds relates their own unique way of solving the problem that has worked for them.

* This post was edited 08/02/08 10:40pm by SoCalDesertRider *


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The cheapest solution would be "Timbrens". My solution was air bags with on board air compressor.


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I keep my Firestone Ride-Rite air bags at approx. 25 psi, when not carrying or pulling a load. I don't have an on-board compressor, as it was too expensive at the time of my air bag install, and from what I have heard many times, they are problem prone. Small compressors are notorious for being cheaply made.

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thanks for the replies.....the gooseneck loaded with the tractor will be in the 13-14k range.....my understanding on the truck camper is that it's 2300#'s dry.....the truck does great towing the gooseneck or carrying the truck camper, I just want to cut down on everybody flashing their lights when I'm driving at night....here's a couple pics to give an idea.



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Posted: 08/03/08 06:30am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I think SoCalDesertRider about covered it - at least everything I was going to say.


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get bigger springs if its a daily driver just get the overload beefed up (bigger/more leafs)
or if its just a tow beast then go with bigger springs

i just noticed is the nose of that gn higher than the deck height?
it looks way too high or maybe its just the pic?
ive heard that can cause more hitchweight (pulling effect) but i dont tow gn

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