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seatboard

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Posted: 08/03/08 06:33pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You should have been at Crooked Creek CG on Lake Keowee in SC. over the fourth. (not a gripe here either) It was wall to wall, people were parked everywhere, golf carts, children and Adults all over and everyone was having lots and lots of fun. After sunset It was topped off with about an hour of fire works.





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Rangers should have informed them to move the extra vehicles to vistor parking. If they are quite and respectful, I don't care how many folks are at a site.


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I don`t know about where you were at but some camp grounds have what they call double sights with two regular pads plus tent pads so that would make 16 people.Our last trip we were beside a bunch that were traveling together.The fist thing they did was invite us over.So if you can`t beating join them.We had a good time that week and made some new friends.But between us we had three pads covered but every one stayed around the one with the biggest grill and most space.We stay at state and fed. parks 95% of the time and never had any trouble.

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As long as the people are well-behaved and I could get by with my vehicles, I would probably just let them be. However, the rangers in our favorite COE park usually enforce parking regulations. There are only 2 reasons I that I hate to see vehicles parked anywhere and everywhere around campsites, and they are the reasons the rangers enforce the rules.

#1, it gets very dry here in the summer months, and repeated driving over the sparse grass will very quickly damage it to the extent that rain will not bring it back to life, and the vehicles' catalytic converters could easily start a fire if the dry grass hasn't been mowed recently.

#2, it can rain a lot around here in the fall and winter, and uncontrolled driving on the grass and unpaved surfaces leaves ruts that will be there from now on, deep enough to create a tripping hazard for children, the elderly, and the disabled (as I am), and makes it difficult for the contractors to mow the camping areas when the grass does grow.

If the people are well-behaved and don't throw 10 P.M.-3 A.M. loud and drunken parties that keep us awake, and we can get in and out, I wouldn't complain about the parking and overcrowding to the park personnel, but the park rangers usually correct illegal parking as soon as they see it.


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winkyb wrote:

I don`t know about where you were at but some camp grounds have what they call double sights with two regular pads plus tent pads so that would make 16 people.Our last trip we were beside a bunch that were traveling together.The fist thing they did was invite us over.So if you can`t beating join them.We had a good time that week and made some new friends.But between us we had three pads covered but every one stayed around the one with the biggest grill and most space.We stay at state and core parks 95% of the time and never had any trouble.


It is a single site park. I think most all the sites have a RV pad as well as a tent site. We have been to some of the parks that have the double sites also and they sure are nice when we have the kids and grandkids join us. We rented two of them side by side last year and had a great time with all the kids and grand kids. We were allowed 24 people total and only had 21. Not too many of those parks around here.

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seatboard wrote:

You should have been at Crooked Creek CG on Lake Keowee in SC. over the fourth. (not a gripe here either) It was wall to wall, people were parked everywhere, golf carts, children and Adults all over and everyone was having lots and lots of fun. After sunset It was topped off with about an hour of fire works.


Good thing CPMATH wasn't there. He would have put a damper on all that fun.

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Posted: 08/03/08 08:18pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I think this is why I like private campgrounds. State parks are great if the rules are enforced. I seriously doubt this would have happened in a National Park. Forest service, probably.


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Rules and Laws always have two parts, The Letter of the rule/law (what it specifically states is prohibited) and the Spirit of the rule/law (what it is intended to do or prevent from happening). Rules are tools that a campground uses to manage teh place and keep order. But as always you can't please everyone.

I percieve that the rules on how many vehicles and how many people can be on an individual site is to keep things under control so a bus load of thirty people show up and pitch 15 tents on one site for a week. It is an extreme example but if another person were to post a complaint because they have a family of 10 and they were forced to rent more sites than they wanted to this thread would be how terrible and uncaring the campground staff was.

My take on this is the campground staff was more interested in the spirit of the rules rather than the letter of the rules. It sounded like they were keeping an eye on the group but they didn't see any problems that needed to be addressed because things were under control. If things at the site were getting out of hand they could use the rules to reign them in or end teh problem if need be.

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We've only had one issue with overcrowding in a campsite. It was at a CG where we parked year round. The owners rented out the lot next to us, which is obviously their right, and the new renters moved in. They tied their dog to our pole, causing him to be entangled in our site. UNPLUGGED OUR FRIDGE to plug their extra cords in and blocked both entrances into our lot.

The owners stated they weren't aware that they had plugged into our site and offered to pay for any lost food, thankfully we had it on auto so it kicked into the propane. But they wouldn't offer to pay for the damage done to the undercarriage of the camper from the dog. The poor dog was left outside the whole weekend (neighbors on the other side of us informed us by phone), never played with, never checked on except once a day for food and water. He constantly turned the waterbowl over and went all day without any more.

Needless to say, we are no longer there. Our neighbors that let us know what was going on have often had several extra guests over as they let their kids bring their families and we never had any problems with them.

If people are polite and are willing to keep all paths open and share the space, we say the more the merrier.

If you're going to be rude and take up everyone else's space including your own, please stay home.


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OzarkPreacher, here is a problem I have with your question and many responding.

If you are going to have rules, they MUST be enforced if they are to be rules.

If you let one person violate a rule, then the rule is useless

Even if the people did not bother anyone, they BROKE the rules.

If someone doesnt insist the rules be followed, what do you think happens to rules?

By allowing anyone, anytime, anywhere to break and evade the punishment for breaking rules, we have in fact, unvalidated the rules.

Is that what we need in society, let alone rving?


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