At the cost of the system ($3000-$4000 on there web site)it better tuck you in and give you a kiss goood night. Unless you drive a whole lot of miles it will take a long time to pay off.
I dont have a complete answer to your question, but I'm looking. In the meanwhile, why did GM kill the electric car? There are huge profits to be made by big oil, their affiliates and their investors.
Meanwhile I'm looking for a system to keep me RVing at the level that I am only now available to do. So I'll keep an open mind and pursue options even if at first glance, they appear suspect to me.
I've been searching the internet and find an abundance of positive omformation and I'm getting rational explanations of the tecnology. Technology the is being taken seriously entities no less presteigeous that MIT. So it would seem worthy of a little of my reading time.
The Hydrogen boost systems seem to be the simple injection of hydrogen into the intake airstream of an unmodified internal combustion engine.
The higher octane hydrogen increaces the power of the existing air-fuel mixture, ultimately yeilding greatly improved fuel milage. The source of the hydrogen, is a simple jar contained, onboard eloctrolisis system using water as the raw material and producing hydrogen and oxygen.
I'm still researching the concept, but if it looks likely that I'm going to try out one of thies units on an old truck I own.
The system that you posted is designed for much larger Diesel engines that are in the neighborhood of 855 cubic inches. I don't think that you would need that much Hydrogen production for a gas engine that is approximately half that displacement.
I have seen small gasoline engines that have literally run on pure Brown's gas, with no other fuel added. I am still thinking that there may be some merit to this type of system, but I have yet to finish my own system.
If there is some fuel savings, and systems can be built for a fraction of the cost of these advertised systems, it could be worth the effort.
However my concern is at what risks is the engine exposed to with the introduction of this externally made fuel. How is it going to effect the stochimetric window in the combustion chamber. If it flashes to quick, it could actually reduce the gas economy, so how would one control the introduction of this additional fuel.
The main worry about utilizing Brown's gas would be possible destruction of internal engine components due to heat and lack of lubrication. And until I find out these answers, I will not be jeopardizing the 460 engine in my Class "A" or any of my vehicles.
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Since I was only intorduced to the concepis very recently, I am far too ignorant of the facts to promote any of these hydrogen boosters. I brought it to the board because here, I have always received so much good advice in the past.
Worst case: the topic will generate some lively debate.
Best case: We can all become more enlightened, and enriched by the enlightenment.
I'm still searching the net, as we speak.
By the way, Brown is just one of the many, so called inventers of such systems. There are other and more complex systems available, some develope a "plasma" composit fuel. And some that run on pure Hydrogen. At this point I am only investigating the Hydrogen booster to the air intake.
When you complete your build, please bring it to the board so we can discuss it further. I will do the same.
Boarhog wrote: Are you familiar with hybred hydorgen engine boost systems like the one discussed here? What do you think of its feasability?
...Theoretically it also can work on deisel engines as well.
Coachmen has already done it. Installed an HHO generator system on one of their SportsCoach Legends back in 2007. As I recall, it resulted in just a minor increase in fuel economy. Questionable as to whether the system would actually ever pay for itself. I do not believe they offer the option any more.
Well I can see the majority opinion here is negative to the proposition. Nonetheless, I think I'll continue my research because of the positive reports from a few resources, Motor Trend for example.
As luck would have it, my friend has just built and installed one on his F150 4.6L as of Monday. He built it correctly and by the book. Cost I beleive is under $300. His daily commute is 100 miles- He has already realized more power, temp is running a little cooler and Monday he noticed it had taken less fuel to work based on fuel gauage. Two of his co-workers added about 4 gal of gas during lunch yesteday just to mess with him- they told him of this today. Based on that prank he will start over tracking MPG again in the morning. I, like you and many others will have to see it believe it, however, there does appear to be somthing to this. I will add to the post once I have real MPG numbers - probabaly next week.
Boarhog wrote: Well I can see the majority opinion here is negative to the proposition. Nonetheless, I think I'll continue my research because of the positive reports from a few resources, Motor Trend for example.
If you are looking for facts on any of these technologies then please look for articles written by scientists and not journalists - they rarely have any scientific training (if they did they would have proper jobs).
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I expect it might work on some 'Bad mileage' engines. My only worry is what does it do to damage modern engines? If I had an ol 55 Pontiac that got 11 MPG, I'd try it in a second! Kinda worried bout puttin s'thing strange on my 362 HP V-10 tho
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Anyway, I think I'm gonna hold off on buying this until they start selling the Chinese knock-offs at Harbor Freight for $39.95.
Here's a possible motivation for all those testimonials being tossed around:
hydrogen-boost.com wrote: Any customer who purchases a Hydrogen-Boost System, either directly from the factory or from an authorized salesperson, becomes eligible for at least $100 sales commission/referral fee whenever they sell another Hydrogen-Boost System to another customer. Subsequent sales produce increase commissions until wholesale pricing is met. Ask us for our dealer/manufacturer presentation.
To collect the commission simply order the Hydrogen-Boost System directly from the factory at a $100 discount, and deliver it to your customer. Or if a customer claims that they were referred to us by you and gives us your salesman authorization certificate number, we will send the $100 referral fee directly to you, upon receipt of sufficient funds and expiration of the 30 day return policy period. Sell five Hydrogen-Boost Systems and yours is more than paid for and you can enjoy a lifetime of fuel savings.
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