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T bone

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We were in 104 degree temps last week(Vernon,Tx) and the front A/C started acting up. It would really pull down and at one time it quit cooling at all.(This happened just as company showed up for fajitas) I thought it might be the Franks auto-former or low voltage. I fired up the generator and it came on and cooled nicely. Then I shut it all down and re-connected to shore power and it began cooling again.But it still would pull down below 100 occasionally on my analog gage in the receptacle.Any good ideas on where to start? Maybe a Start capacitor or maybe a new A/C.By the way, the A/C in question is a 13500 Duo-Therm.ON EDIT. Oh, I forgot, it also did it once on generator, it really pulled that little 5500 Onan down.Lasts about 3-5 seconds and is good for a while maybe hours, maybe minutes.

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Posted: 08/14/08 06:49pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If it was 104 I would think there was a lot of power being pulled where you were. Sounds like a usage issue. I don't think you have a problem except low voltage from so much power being used and overloading the system.





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If it's already running that would eliminate a start capacitor, you probably don't even have a start capacitor, just a run capacitor unless you have added a hard start kit.

As it runs ok on the gen set it is low volts at the pedastal, running or trying to run it at 100 vac will ruin the compressor motor in a short time.

The fact that it did it once on the genset was probably due to trying to start it without waiting for the pressures to equalize.

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We were in 104 degree temps last week(Vernon,Tx) and the front A/C started acting up. It would really pull down and at one time it quit cooling at all.(This happened just as company showed up for fajitas) I thought it might be the Franks auto-former or low voltage. I fired up the generator and it came on and cooled nicely. Then I shut it all down and re-connected to shore power and it began cooling again.But it still would pull down below 100 occasionally on my analog gage in the receptacle.Any good ideas on where to start? Maybe a Start capacitor or maybe a new A/C.By the way, the A/C in question is a 13500 Duo-Therm.ON EDIT. Oh, I forgot, it also did it once on generator, it really pulled that little 5500 Onan down.Lasts about 3-5 seconds and is good for a while maybe hours, maybe minutes.


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Classic symptoms of compressor cycling OFF and ON before the head pressure dies down. It will draw a lot of amps trying to start until the thermal CB trips. Try setting the thermostat to a much colder setting so the compressor stays on all the time. Also, run the fan on HIGH.


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Classic example of low voltage at the pedestal. Don't run your stuff on 100 volts.


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All the above answers are Correct!

I would also advise you to inspect the condencer coil for dirt build up.

Low park voltage on hot days is a common problem.

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I had 106 volts at the pedestal but my Franks was boosting it to 116.The rear A/C (11000 BTU) was doing fine and not surging and dipping.

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Sounds more like a voltage problem rather than the A/C.

Running the A/C on 100V will cause the A/C to self destruct, you need at least 105 and I wouldn't run mine below 108.


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T bone wrote:

I had 106 volts at the pedestal but my Franks was boosting it to 116.The rear A/C (11000 BTU) was doing fine and not surging and dipping.


I have little knowledge here so this is just a question; Is the voltage supplied by the Franks legitimate? That is; is it the same as power supplied at the pedestal?


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Posted: 08/15/08 06:05am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The voltage is boosted as needed by the autoformer, that's what they do.

Sometimes it's the same, sometimes it is boosted.

If it is a buck and boost, it will curtail high volts.

{usually not a problem}

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I have little knowledge here so this is just a question; Is the voltage supplied by the Franks legitimate? That is; is it the same as power supplied at the pedestal ?

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