Hi all... I'm sure that you all have heard this before but we are looking to make the move from a 5th wheel to a Class A. Currently, we are looking at a 2008 Tiffin Motorhomes Allegro Open Road 35 QBA. What kind of deal should I expect. MSRP is currently $144,000 and I was thinking 30% off of MSRP, which brings the net price before taxes, title, license, etc. to about $100,000. Do you think I can get better than that? What can I expect quality wise with Allegro? Thanks in advance for all of your help!!!
2007 GMC 3500HD 4x4/Crew Cab/Long Box
2007 Cedar Creek Silverback 35L4QB
Folks have talked about getting as much as 25-28% off MSRP. While there are a handful that say they got more, I'm sure there were unsaid details, just as I'm also sure that most of us get somewhere in the range of 20-25%.
The current economic situation and slow market for Class A's does not change the need for the dealership to make a profit. Most dealers that are going to survive have made major adjustments in their inventory, sales staff, and perhaps physical plant. They are reasonably well positioned to survive by selling fewer coaches at their normal margins.
A large part of their inventory adjustment is a reluctance to acquire used coaches where the entire value of the coach is fronted by the dealership. In other words, it's a lousy time to get much $$ on a trade-in.
What about the dealers that won't make it? Will they offer a fantastic deal? Probably not. They too, still have to sell the coach for enough to pay off the bank on the flooring and make a profit. If they can't make a profit, they have factory buy-back programs to clear their inventory.
Steve & C. J.
"Gracie" the Rough Collie & "Bo'sun" the Bichon Frise
Call tiffin and get a spec sheet and price list, fill it out and email or fax it to all of the dealers and see who gives you the best price. 30% may be expecting a little too much but who knows. One good thing about Tiffin is you do not have to use the local dealer, you can get warranty work done anywhere with prior approval.
The best deals are on coaches which have not sold over time and on used coaches sold privately. The ones which are still on the lot now (the RV recession is now several months old) will likely have some good reason why they didn't sell. Every time I look at these, I don't want them either. It comes down to whether or not you want to compromise your needs to a better price. That doesn't work for me because I usually only last a year or so, then I buy what I should have bought in the first place. The last time I visited a few RV lots there weren't very many really old stock new coaches around.
As a previous poster said, smart dealers who want to stay in business don't give the coaches away.
In spite of all that, I think the best advice is to determine what your "real" needs are first, then go looking for the best deal you can find on a unit which you won't need to trade in less than 5 years. Often the best deal is a low mileage used coach. The early trade thing on a coach you bought new is the worst finacial loss.
The value of paying a bit more up front and being happy with the coach is priceless.
2005 Country Coach Inspire DaVinci 40'
2008 Honda CRV Dinghy
My views.
As time goes on, fewer and fewer RV,s will be available, that are in real nice condition,as the manufacturers close there will be less floor plans to chose and the older ones now seem to be used less,some are now full timers and the condition of the coaches will suffer.
If one is going into a motor home, first time, or trading up, I think waiting may not be a good thing. Older DP,s may be hard to find in the near future. Older motor homes may start to increase in value.
Just my thoughts.
Carm
So few are being sold lately that IF you really, really want a new one NOW have them throw in 'Extended Warranty' bumper-to-bumper. Buy the NADA Rec. Vehicle Appraisal Guide. and check out the 06 and 07's. Ph# (800) 966-6232. Prepare to be stunned. TOM
Locomotiveman..Yes I am a career cross-country Locomotive Engineer. Wife is an RN. We are CLOSE to retiring and 'downsized' to a Monaco Executive w/450hp Cummins and nice drapes. Locomotiveman
30% is a joke at the dealers. It is a huge disservice to buyers to thnik that it can be had. There may be some brands with that kind of markup, but Tiffin ain't one of them.
Previuos posters are right, the dealer still has to make a profit, there are some close to cost bargains out there, but the Tiffins are selling pretty good. I worked the last 3 years at the highest volume Tiffin dealer in the country, and these are still selling well. Remember what the prev poster said about dealerships adjusting staff? I was a staff adjustment.
That floorplan in your quest is a great one, I remember it well. You will really enjoy it. I would think at about 115000 you can find a dealer, but at 100,000 they would be losing a lot of money.
Good luck.
Bill & Jolene / FL 1997 Southwind 35P 2006 Yamaha 1100 Classic &
1970 Norton Commando 750 in state of recuperation (Almost road ready!!!)
6x12 Enclosd trailer
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