Oh my gawd! I hope I never have to set up in a "camp ground" again! Most of you folks seem to have a miserable time. I will just keep on boon docking, thank you!
The Texan wrote: I've enjoyed reading these post from all kinds of campers. It is very easy to pick out the "new age camper" and their, it's all about me attitude, from the campers of "the old school" who learned basic manners and CG etiquette. I enjoy good neighbors type campers, but dislike rude arrogant campers.
Mousefart wrote: ....THAT is the BIG difference. For me, it IS a big deal, and in MY campsite, that is what matters.
Sure, we all have these choices you describe.
What really matters, however, is that just because your campsite is closest to the water doesn't always mean you "own" the space all the way to the water.
In fact, you don't "own" it, period. You are simply using it for a price. And as someone else said, everyone pays to use the common areas.
huntram wrote: Here's one for you. We were at Millerton Lake near Fresno, CA. Last day there, a day user and his family parked in a camp site across the road. Next I know the whole family comes onto our site, takes the picnic table, and starts cooking carne asada in our campsite barbecue pit. Probably 10-12 in the family. As offended as I was I decided to let it go since I was leaving that day, that is until the had the nerve to ask to borrow some salt and pepper from me! That was it, I got a ranger who promptly ticketed all the cars for parking in a camping space. They also were also escorted out of the park!
Brian
Did you let them stay long enough so you could get a plate of food?
They no hablo english when I asked for a taco!
Si hablo english when they wanted the pepper!
Brian
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Mousefart wrote: ....THAT is the BIG difference. For me, it IS a big deal, and in MY campsite, that is what matters.
Sure, we all have these choices you describe.
What really matters, however, is that just because your campsite is closest to the water doesn't always mean you "own" the space all the way to the water.
In fact, you don't "own" it, period. You are simply using it for a price. And as someone else said, everyone pays to use the common areas.
I certainly won't argue that point. I often camp on the bank of a large brook. If it is fishing season, I know there are going to be people walking by along the bank, or even standing there fishing.
However, when they start cutting through my site to get to the bank, then, and only then, is when I have issues. In my situation there is PLENTY of access without cutting through anyone's site so there is no excuse other than rudeness.
Fortunately, we seem to have LOTS of courteous fishermen in out local state parks so it hasn't really been an issue.
(Now if only the hunters would show the same courtesy with their LOUD generators! )
Paul (Mouse)
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I guess I can see both sides here. I personally do not like people walking through the site I rented, however, if there is an adjacent trail between two areas . . okay. I personally think the campground should make is so people don't need to walk through each other's sites to use the facilities of the grounds.
As far as water front, at the vast majority of sites I've been to, you pay more for waterfront AND there is usually a beach or other public access area for those NOT on the water. In those cases, if you don't want to pony up the additional cash for waterfront, don't expect me to foot the bill for you.
I haven't had too many problems with adults cutting through our campsite, We did have a little girl run right through our campsite bewteen our TV and our 75 lb Lab who jumped up at her knocking her down. It happened so quickly I wasn't able to even shout STOP!!!!!!!!!! as she headed right past the dogs. She wasn't hurt and her parents had a good attitude about it that it was HER Fault. But we still felt bad and I am sure if he would have nipped her or scratched her we would have had all sorts of problems with the parents.
At our house we have a Bike Trail that goes behind our house and we have a huge problem with not only kids but Adults that are too lazy to go the extra couple of blocks to where the street connects to the trail cutting through our yard. The smart ones have learned the hard way where the invisible fence boundary is and they stay on the edge. But we have had Adults cut across the yard right past the swingset 5 feet from the house and act like it is their god given right. I wonder what would happen if they were to look out their window and see me wandering around their back yard. So I am the neighborhood Curmudgeon, yelling at kids and questioning adults why they are in My Yard.
It isn't that I am worried about my grass being damaged , I am worried about the kid who get's knocked off his bike by my dogs who in their mind are defending their yard. Someday I'll be able to afford to fence in the yard (1/2 acre lot isn't cheap).
Some people apparently feel they are the friendliest individuals around and everyone should just accept that! My wife and I had a similar experience a couple of weeks ago, at a New York State Park. When we checked in, we were told we could set up by pulling into our pull thru site in either direction. Driving up, we noticed the hook ups were on the left side of the site, as per pulling thru in the normal direction. First thing we had to do was ask the people in the next site to move their car out of our drive thru. Guess they figured it was going to remain empty for the duration of their stay!
This couple, with a motor home, had pulled into their site in the opposite direction. They had all of their chairs, out, the belly door open, and the TV playing loudly. They were also using our fire ring, and picnic table. They were not an unfriendly pair, but made no attempt to move any of their stuff from our site so we could use what we had paid for.
After two days, my wife was getting a bit perturbed, as was I. We stopped at the office and had a discussion with the ranger. He looked up their name and said good news, they are leaving tomorrow. He also said the park had previously had problems with them doing similar tactics to others.
The next morning came, and the wife left. The husband took his time picking up their equipment and finally pulled out around 4 PM. Check out was supposed to be 11 AM! Needless to say, we were glad to see them leave. Sorry we got in their way, NOT!
It is a shame that so many Americans have this, "if it feels good do it and don't mind anyone else who it may affect". It's time we all took lessons in manors!
Bandaid,
Why did you wait 2 days??? I don't get it! That is the reason these people do it is because nobody calls them out on it!
Go up to the ranger and let him handle it right when you got there, or I would have started to take their items off of the picnic table and placed them onto their site to put my table cloth on.
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