Horseplay wrote: I know this law very well. I used to be a school bus driver. When an exempt sign is posted at these crossings, the hazmats do NOT have to stop.
In NY, and a few other states, I researched heavily, do not have buses stop at EXEMPT signed crossings. Why oh why not in NC? Well, I was told from NCDOT that it is up to the county to deem whether it is necessary. The county idiot decided that they still need to stop. I wish I had aerial pics of this.
If I was still driving, I wouldn't stop there. I would take my ticket and make a case out of it. What cracks me up about this is if an accident that is deadly happens, it will be the driver of the vehicle to get sued. It is just a stupid. WHY did they determine that it was an EXEMPT crossing to begin with???
C-Leigh Racing wrote:
It states in the NC drivers test hand book, ALL hasmat trucks or tankers, buses, WILL stop before crossing RR tracks to be sure tracks are clear. Even more, it state that any one of those crossing tracks will maintain one gear & not shift while on the tracks.
The problem with that crossings not the bus stopping, its those drivers behind the bus that dont have a clue what they are doing on the highway.
I'm as guilty as the rest when it comes to a railroad & looking for people stopping, its those gates, they are either up or down because a train is comming so it just kinda fades away & you get lax about it.
Should be a light of sorts flashing a good distance before every rail crossing to remind drivers that this can happen, but then again thats what they have road signs for.
Neil
Sorry, I missed the exempt part in your post.
Neil
Those of us who tow with modified Class 8 tractors have even more fun with this.
In some states, a regular drivers license is all you need to pull 70,000 down the raod (MA for instance) and in TX, you need a class A license.
In all states there is no law that can require a CDL for personal use. That would be against federal statue.
The definition of commerce is where it get's murky. An activity that has rewards is generally considered commerce by most juridictions, so yes, taking the horse to 4-H and winning a ribbon becomes commerce. Crazy, yes, but currently, the law.
Personally, it makes more sense to me to declare commerce as anything that triggers an entry on a state or federal tax return.
jgolden wrote: If a state does a good job at regulating and informing is another question.
Its like junk mail. The states stick it in the envelope with your renewal info and it gets stuck in file 13 when people open it. They pay no attention. And the legislature discuss proposed new laws and vote them up or down, then send them off to the governor for signature, but we, the people, never hear about it. Even if your read the paper, you never hear about all of it. But still, ignorance of the law is no excuse in a court of law before the Judge.
DIYGuy wrote: ...
The definition of commerce is where it get's murky. An activity that has rewards is generally considered commerce by most juridictions, so yes, taking the horse to 4-H and winning a ribbon becomes commerce. Crazy, yes, but currently, the law.
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Quote: Commerce means (a) any trade, traffic or transportation within the jurisdiction of the United States between a place in a State and a place outside of such State, including a place outside of the United States and (b) trade, traffic, and transportation in the United States which affects any trade, traffic, and transportation described in paragraph (a) of this definition.
Now who can make heads or tails form a definition like that? Talk about loop holes... that is just one continous loop hole.
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BIGBIRD130 wrote: If anyone knows the outcome of the meeting at Richard Childress's place could you let everyone else know
Thanks
I could know something by Wed next week & I dont know, I might even go myself if its open to all.
On a sader note, the operating DL you would need in NC depends on the GVWR of what your driving, what it CAN carry.
Long as your not over 26,001 lbs, combined toter & trailer & not have anything inside the trailer that a dollar or a prize could be awarded for, a class c DL is all you need in NC. But, how many people have an enclosed trailer & it not used for something like that.
If you load a Harley up going to Stergis rally & got to pay to get in, guess what.
Neil
C-Leigh Racing wrote: If you load a Harley up going to Stergis rally & got to pay to get in, guess what.
Neil
I would seriously doubt that paying to get into something would constitute a "commercial" enterprise. You pay to get into the ball game, does that mean you need a CDL to drive to it? Not likely. If you're going to participate in any commercial endeavor, that's where it gets murky.
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Class C: Any single vehicle with a GVWR less than 26,001 pounds and designed to transport fewer than 16 passengers including the driver and is not transporting hazadous materials requiring CDL endorsements and is exempt from CDL requirements. May tow a vehicle with a GVWR less than 10,001 lbs.
I called the NC Driver's license office and they told me they go by the weight on the title which mine is 25,690. She kept telling me to read the back of my driver's license and as long as my tow vehicle wasn't over 10,001 lbs - then I was ok.
Don't worry, I have enough problems w/ my own !! Robbie
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