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racefan1965 wrote:Yeah we know how well beating kids works. Must not happen at home enough so let's allow the schools do it too. My most glorious moments growing up as a kid were the beatings I got from parents and teachers alike!
It's funny though, all of those memories of spankings and beatings with hangers, belts and even a baseball bat once seem to out number all the good times that my parents say happened.
I think I'll talk with my kids before I even think about swinging at them. Couldn't hurt to try. And by doing so maybe they will remember the trips to the lakes and mountains rather than the pain of punishments.
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General comment folks. We have been over this topic more than once over the past years/months. Emotions have been getting out line with some members on this topic and contributing to too many deleted posts. Reel them in and use more objective material if you can find it, otherwise....
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IMHO, children needs to understand who is boss, no matter how the lesson is taught. You cannot be a friend to your child. I know someone, now, who is having such problems. Her 24 & 27 year old son's, were petted and pampered. Now, they live at home (still), will not help around the house and refuse to pay rent. They do NOT respect their parents, because they never learned the valuable lesson.
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Pawz4me wrote:I got one spanking (actually, a few slaps on the hand with a ruler) in second grade. I absolutely did not deserve it. She was a nutjob of a teacher who thought she knew who was talking behind her back. It wasn't me, it was the boy beside me. To this day I can still remember how powerless, outraged and ashamed I felt.
That one incident convinced me that no teacher would ever strike my child for any reason whatsoever.
Occasionally you may find a teacher like this, but when you take the authority away from the teachers, you can't expect them to teach. I never got a spanking at school, though I know I deserved several. The reason I never got one was because I knew what would happen when I got home. After I was grown and married, my dad telling how he wished he'd been easier on me and my oldest sister like he was with my two younger sisters. I replied that he didn't need to apologize for my upbringing, and that I wouldn't have traded places with my younger sisters.
I've had a middle school boy on my bus for tha past three years who apparently has never had any leather applied where it counts. He has absolutley no respect whatsoever for anyone else. Unless something drastic happens in the next few years before he has to go into the real world, he'll never make it, and I told him that. Thankfully he's moved on to high school this year. Our prisons are full of young people who were never disciplined, but it has to start at home. If kids aren't taught to respect their parents, how in the world can they be expected to respect anyone.
The local school board here met this week, and one thing on the agenda was whether to do away with corporal punishment. The local TV station held an on line opinion poll about it, and over 75% were in favor of keeping it.
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I think this thread stands a better chance of continuing if everyone will reread the OP's post, which is about corporal punishment in the schools - NOT about the whippings they received at home as children or how they themselves discipline their kids.
Perhaps thinking about it from a socio-political standpoint (with references cited if you'd like) and not as emotional, anecdotal, one-up-manship will help keep us on track.
Just a thought...
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I believe it’s a parents right to discipline their children in a “reasonable” way. But wouldn’t have any part of a government employee laying a hand on my child 
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donsm60 wrote:I believe it’s a parents right to discipline their children in a “reasonable” way. But wouldn’t have any part of a government employee laying a hand on my child
So if they weren't a government employee it would be ok? Just wondering what the qualifications should be.
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gasbag wrote:donsm60 wrote:I believe it’s a parents right to discipline their children in a “reasonable” way. But wouldn’t have any part of a government employee laying a hand on my child
So if they weren't a government employee it would be ok? Just wondering what the qualifications should be.
Gas, spanking a behind is OK with me in extreme circumstances, but I’m going to be the one that makes that decision. Don’t need big brother to do it for me, maybe I’m weird…
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brauneyz wrote:I think this thread stands a better chance of continuing if everyone will reread the OP's post, which is about corporal punishment in the schools - NOT about the whippings they received at home as children or how they themselves discipline their kids.
I would have chimed in earlier, but we've been packing for a camping trip. Yes, Brauneyz is right, I think a few people are getting off track. To see that some posts were deleted by the mod is too bad - I'm interested to see what everyone has to say so please let's keep it tame!
One of the reasons this news story caught my eye is because I'm a teacher (laidoff but that's a gripe for a different thread). Although I've had more than my share of behavior problem plagued students, I would never dream laying a hand on one of them. One year my fifth graders were "buddies" with a kindergarten class. I will never forget hearing them recite "hands are for helping not for hurting" whenever one of the little ones used their hands inappropriately.
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donsm60 wrote:I believe it’s a parents right to discipline their children in a “reasonable” way. But wouldn’t have any part of a government employee laying a hand on my child My sentiments exactly, Don.
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