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flrvman

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Posted: 06/15/09 07:38am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Also, everything you bring into a coach does not go all the way to the rear. Like kitchen. But it will be yours so look for what you want. There are quit a few mid-door diesels on internet. good luck.


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First off, welcome to the forum.

We have a gas MH with the mid entry. We love our MH but could sure use that area that is taken up by the door. It would have helped to have more counter space for our kitchen.

I understand your remarks about carrying the whole length of the MH. My wife and I are old coots. Wait a minute. I am the old coot, and she is the mature chick.

Which ever you end up with, just take your time loading and unloading. Don't rush it and you will not be worn out. Enjoy whatever you get. We are still learning how to slow down.

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Posted: 06/15/09 07:48am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

JaBob wrote:

Snowfether don't be so harsh. After all the true distance difference in travel to the rear of the coach is not its full length but probably 10 ft more on a pusher.


I don't think the distance is the major issue. It's having to claim over and around the front seat while crooking your neck to the left to keep from hitting your head on the overhead console while carring four of those plastic bags from the Kroger about ten times in a row every time you buy food is the issue for me.

Another issue is that many times the very front of the rig will be higher than any other point while leveled. On the other hand, the center of amost will never be the highest point when leveled.

And don't forget about the lest time it rained and your fron entry was stuck out there in the rain where a mid entry would have been right there under the main awning.

I understand that there possible engineering challages and I see the point regarding reducing the size of a slide, but I also realize that those folks claiming that a front entry is more conveniant than a side are talking out of their, oh well.


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Posted: 06/15/09 08:10am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

As the proud owner of a 2004 DP I would suggest that the location of the entry door would NEVER offset the other amenities the diesel has over the gasser...IMHO, of course


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The OP has a very valid point.

Carrying items in and out can be made much easier in a mid entry diesel, especially when she is the sole caregiver for someone handicapped like she stated. All those steps saved can be energy used for something else.

We have a mid entry diesel and I would not have it any other way. Both our folks have front entry diesels. No thanks.

Most of our trips in and out are for carrying in food, out food, in dirty dishes, out trays of drinks, etc. Not the kind of thing you want in and out over the carpeting in the livingroom areas. We can go directly in and out of the kitchen area without tracking across the carpeting.

Also with two dogs, they enter directly onto the hardwood floor of the kitchen area where we can wipe off muddy paws, or be routed quickly to the left into the bathroom vinyl flooring or tub as need be. I can't imagine having them track through the livingroom areas or rubbing up against the couches or furniture in the front when wet and or muddy.

I notice in both of my folk's rigs, at the front entryway there are jackets laying over the seats, shoes piled up at the door or being kicked and falling down the steps. This seems to be a very narrow area to stand inside and remove shoes, jackets, set down flashlights, dog leashes, umbrellas, and any extra stuff you happen to have in your hands ends up piled on the front dash. No closets nearby to hang or stow things. So it's a cluttered up messy area as you enter the rig, unless the poor moms harp on the dad's to put their stuff away.. and the dad's grumble back that they are gonna use it in a few minutes again. LOL

In our side-entry rig, we have multiple coat hooks on the wall next to the door, closets right around the corner, two big baskets for shoes and dog leashes and toys, room to manuever around and put things where they belong all within arm's reach. I can set trays of food on the countertop and reach down to open the door to get out, without trying to balance them on the dash or passenger seat like in my folk's rigs.

Just food for thought, a side entry diesel makes our life easier.

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SCHARLEY wrote:

Birddog,

Dont you just hate it when you take the time to write an in depth responce to a thread and as soon as you post and read the one ahead of you, you realize that your telling the owner of a DP why they should want one.

The OP isn't questioning the merrits of DP's, she is questioning the merrit of front entry door! Or rather why there are not more mid-entry DP options. Fact is there are lots of folks who prefer mid-entry. Some of us actually on mid-entry DPs and enjoy the best of both worlds.


Hmmm… The point of my post was that: (i) anyone who views the location of the entry door as the primary deciding factor between diesel and gas Class A rigs probably has the tail wagging the dog - there are much more significant differences between gas and diesel: (ii) mid-entry doors are available in diesel rigs; and (iii) there is by no means universal agreement that a mid-entry door is preferable over a front-entry door.


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Hauling groceries, linens, medical paraphenalia, a walker, canes, and other supplies the full length of the RV every time I enter it is at times exhausting
So you already have a DP?

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Posted: 06/15/09 10:04am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Like any long narrow room, an entry at the end or toward a corner provides more usable wall space. In a motorhome the wall space is particularly scarce. Having slides also precludes entry placement. If a floor plan with side entry is to your liking, great, but, many of the desirable floorplans preclude side entry. Also, historically, most class A motorhomes evolved or eminated from front entry buses. Many coaches now have front galleys which reduces the grocery trek.


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Posted: 06/15/09 10:23am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have to laugh at the comments about how much further it it to walk to the kitchen from a front door vs. a side door. Walking the extra ten feet gives you some needed exercise. Besides, have these people never owned a home? Any home I have ever lived in had a lot further to go from where we parked to the kitchen. We have discussed this many times over the last 9 years. Typically, the people who have a side door think it's a big advantage, but few of the ones who go from a side door to a front door miss the side door.


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Posted: 06/15/09 10:42am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Birddogman wrote:

SCHARLEY wrote:

Birddog,

Dont you just hate it when you take the time to write an in depth responce to a thread and as soon as you post and read the one ahead of you, you realize that your telling the owner of a DP why they should want one.

The OP isn't questioning the merrits of DP's, she is questioning the merrit of front entry door! Or rather why there are not more mid-entry DP options. Fact is there are lots of folks who prefer mid-entry. Some of us actually on mid-entry DPs and enjoy the best of both worlds.


Hmmm… The point of my post was that: (i) anyone who views the location of the entry door as the primary deciding factor between diesel and gas Class A rigs probably has the tail wagging the dog - there are much more significant differences between gas and diesel: (ii) mid-entry doors are available in diesel rigs; and (iii) there is by no means universal agreement that a mid-entry door is preferable over a front-entry door.


LOL I was just pulling your leg a little, I knw you wrote the post without knowing the OP already owns a front entry DP. I've done the same thing myself.

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