I am from Canada purchased an new Itasca Cambria in 2008 in the US built to US / UL specs. Winnebago "Parts catalogs" list the differences between the "Canadian" model built to CSA versus UL specs and notes the different parts numbers required for the build. (I had to go thru the model parts catalog on a page by page basis to derrmine this info but it can be done for all winnebago products and is likely indicative of what is required in other RVs using similar components)
Aside from the obvious appliances (Microwave) that CSA insists has their approval, the Stove vent hood was also different. The converter had dual US/CSA certification so was not affected. Two swivel propane fixtures were changed to CSA approved ones, the 20 amp microwave outlet was changed, and the two p-traps in the Kitchen and bath sinks were changed. Bilingual warning labels were required for the stove (Hot) and nearby curtains (Keep Clear of Stove). From a chassis perspective, an aftermarket Daytime Running Light (DRL) module was added to conform to Canadian federal vehicle requirements.
Not really a lot of stuff - the p-trap requirement baffles me - but you have to play the game to sell in Canada but not to import a US unit for the most part. The only modification I had top make was to have DRLs added to the Ford Chassis by a dealer.
Interesting that the Canadian inspection required to import an RV only focuses on chassis items. When mine was inspected, they checked for DRLs, VIN numbers versus title and tire pressure levels on the sticker attached to the door - a two minute inspection.
Hope this helps answer some of the concerns.I have had abbsolutely no problems with my Unit relative to these items and the iport process is extremely simple.
The Black Pearl wrote: $21,000.00 US or $23,100 Canadian and that is negotiating over the internet. The $3K could cover the Henseley hitch I want and gets me more options such as the 15K air conditioner, alloy wheels, satelite set up, water purifier etc. As a consumer if I am paying more money for anything I expect value. What is the $179? Why are the Canadian prices wacked as always.
WTF are you complaining about? You are going to drop over 23 thousand bux, Cdn and you are whining about 179. You either need a serious life adjustment or a swift boot. Be grateful you have that kind of lifestyle.
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Thanks for missing the point...The issue is what is the difference between US and Canadian Standards and what do I have to do to get it passed through Canadian customs. Maybe I wasn't clear, however I am now. Maybe some adjustment on your part is required.......
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I have no problems with standards, however when buying a Canadian or US 2010 trailer I would hope that either of the standards (US/Canada) for this model year would be tested and safe. I do not beleive the trailer would know that it was from the US and now in Canada and it was time to blow up and vis versa.
The Black Pearl wrote: I have no problems with standards, however when buying a Canadian or US 2010 trailer I would hope that either of the standards (US/Canada) for this model year would be tested and safe. I do not beleive the trailer would know that it was from the US and now in Canada and it was time to blow up and vis versa.
Nobody is suggesting trailers built to either standard are unsafe. Just that the standards are different, that's all.
I suggest you take the $179 out of the $3Gs you are saving and quit whining!
Then take it to you local Crappy Tire store for the certification check if needed to keep the local licence/registration people happy. The border guys will only want to collect the GST, they don't care about "standards".
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The Black Pearl wrote: I have no problems with standards, however when buying a Canadian or US 2010 trailer I would hope that either of the standards (US/Canada) for this model year would be tested and safe. I do not beleive the trailer would know that it was from the US and now in Canada and it was time to blow up and vis versa.
Nobody is suggesting trailers built to either standard are unsafe. Just that the standards are different, that's all.
I suggest you take the $179 out of the $3Gs you are saving and quit whining!
Then take it to you local Crappy Tire store for the certification check if needed to keep the local licence/registration people happy. The border guys will only want to collect the GST, they don't care about "standards".
I am not whinning about the $179. This cost is to the Canadian dealer, I have no idea if I can even purchase a trailer in the US with Canadian standards (+$179). Its not that simple to say "quite whinning and pay". Pretty interesting to see how you have picked up on the other persons post and thought you could jump in. you missed the point.
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The Black Pearl wrote: I am not whinning about the $179. This cost is to the Canadian dealer, I have no idea if I can even purchase a trailer in the US with Canadian standards (+$179). Its not that simple to say "quite whinning and pay". Pretty interesting to see how you have picked up on the other persons post and thought you could jump in. you missed the point.
OK, you're not whining about paying the $179, you're not complaining about saving $3G and getting more "stuff" for your money.
So all that's left to complain about are two countries with different standards/requirements and manufacturers that charge $179 for a different build process for a small percentage of their product.
I suggest you need to get over it!
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Oh did I tell you,that when the CSA come to inspect the units design at the factory. The factory of course put out the best unit for inspection, and when they pass it, it's free game for the rest of the batch.
double jj wrote: A lot of the products are build in China or India.And the manufacturers over there are not going to spend any extra time and money on adding the CSA logo on their products.
Well a couple of years ago there was a flood of defective Chinese generators (catching fire while operating) in southern Ontario (Written in Bancroft Times. Since they had CSA stickers on them they were inspected for the cause. Besides poor engineering & workmanship, the CSA stickers were counterfeit. The CSA was contacted & they had never approved this company's generators.
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