fordsooperdooty
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Heartland has the '88 degree cap', Cedar Creek has a SilverBack 90 degree, Forest River has the 90 degree plus cap, As does Glendale and some Jayco's , as do several other brands...doubt it can be "patented" to shape a front cap to avoid the cab. Most advertise "nearly 90 degrees" or "improved turning radius" to avoid stupid people lawsuits.
And my PullRite SuperGlide does not barely miss the cab during a tight turn, it clears it by a good margin...important if you hit a bump during a tight turn or when backing.
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WellShooter2
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My SB will turn my Challenger about 83 degrees max. I have never had a need for a 90 degree bend or a slider. It would be too hard on the trailer anyway.
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Jayco-noslide
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I don't know about that trailer but we bought a 99 Jayco, 26 footer, 6 years ago to go with our ext cab, short box and I've never regretted it. Ths salesman said I wouldn't need a slider hitch and I agree. Oh, I could get the trailer into the side of the cab but just have to pay attention and never a need to jacknife that much anyway.
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mannyc
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So it sounds like a lot of you in here are pulling 5th wheels with a short bed truck and a standard hitch, AND can get a 90 degree turning radius out of it too?
That's so weird, because the guy at camping world and one other place I called about installing the hitch said they had not seen trailers that can turn 90 degrees without either a long bed or a sliding hitch.
Hmmmmm.
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mannyc
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mwebber78 wrote:I have never heard of a Brookstone, who makes them?
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The model is the 367RL. We saw it at a show a month or so ago and fell in love with it.
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WellShooter2
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mannyc wrote:So it sounds like a lot of you in here are pulling 5th wheels with a short bed truck and a standard hitch, AND can get a 90 degree turning radius out of it too?
That's so weird, because the guy at camping world and one other place I called about installing the hitch said they had not seen trailers that can turn 90 degrees without either a long bed or a sliding hitch.
Hmmmmm.
-M
I don't think anybody said they could bend 90 degrees without a slider. What we are saying is that there is little need to. If you bend a 5er 90 degrees you will have to slide the trailer wheels sideways. With a heavy trailer and on a hard surface this will be very bad for the tires, bearings and wheels. Think about it.
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mfoster711
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http://www.rvnews.com/arvreviews.cfm interesting. I had not heard of this. Go down part of the page to read about it.
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campNride
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I have a dodge shortbed that I tow a 5th wheel TH with. I have two love marks on my cab due to it hitting trying to get into my storage spot. It is a very tight turn and my spotter (dear wife) lost her concentration and didn't stop me until after I hit. I now have a slider hit and am able to make a 90 degree turn but only have about 2 inches to spare. Well the other day the trailer flexed when I was in a 90 and hit my rear window. Luckily we caught it as soon as that happened and was able to prevent the window from breaking. Now my trailer is a standard squared off front end without the shortbed notch outs. I would go with a slider for those just incase places or situations. If you watch craigslist you can usually pick one up for $300-$500. Just my thoughts...
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skeeter24
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mannyc wrote:I have a brookstone on order.
Getting a regular hitch will save me a good amount of weight and about $2K over a sliding one.
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I have a short bed Chevy and a manual slider. I have only had my FW about a month and have yet to use the slider, but it is there if I need it.
A manual slider is only about $200 more. It is an auto slider that would be $2K more.
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wittmeba
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mannyc wrote:How much do any of you know about the new Brookstones (2010's) that have the short bed compliant caps on them?
I was told by a factory rep at a show that they have a patent on this and are now offering their 2010 models (the one I ordered) so that you can install a regular hitch (non-sliding) in a short bed pickup and get full 90 degree turns.
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Several mfgs make this claim. I personally dont believe any of them.
The simple way to determine this is measure from the hitchplate/pin hole on the hitch to the back of the truck cab. This will be typically about 39" << This dimension is conditional on your hitch being properly installed.
Now measure the pin to the outside edge of the 5th wheel nose. If it is more you will have contact. If it is less you will be ok without a slider. Only other possibility is the narrow portion is long enough to reach outside the truck/cab when the trailer is at approx 90º.
It might be the case with some 5th wheels, some trucks, some hitches based on different locations...but to make a general statement (even with the picture) my truck would not do it.
My guess is there really isnt any that narrow at the bottom of the nose cap. The flat side of the 8 foot rigs are 92" wide.
Here is what you want to measure.
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