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First, one battery probably is not enough, you use two to start it. Also, I am told that if they are not very good jumper cables it won't work either. I had that problem once....was the batteries.

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When you buy batteries don't scrimp, heavier is better, Interstate makes batteries for Costco, but are a lot lighter than theirs, go for more lead.

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starlord wrote:

I am told that if they are not very good jumper cables it won't work either.
Bingo. You need the fattest jumper cables you can find to start a dual battery truck.

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I had to jump my duramax once. It was last winter in -20 weather, left an assorsory on. It took a truck off the same size, 2 sets of #2 gauge wire jumper cables hooked to each battery and needed to charge about 1/2 an hour before the truck would roll over. I still have those batterys in the truck and they havent gone dead yet.


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2oldman wrote:

starlord wrote:

I am told that if they are not very good jumper cables it won't work either.
Bingo. You need the fattest jumper cables you can find to start a dual battery truck.
No you don't. Just hook up to the posts of the main battery and not the sister battery. This way you dont have to go through the extra cable in the parallel circuit. The Fords are always harder on batteries beacuse of the glow plugs and having to have a minimum rpm requirement before the injectors will pop.

Just because we have diesel engines doesn't really mean they take a whole lot more to turn over an engine. A V8 gas engine starter could require more juice from a battery than the one in my Cummins due to the way the starters are built.

My truck was built in Oct of 03. I am still on the original batteries and they spin it over just fine even after the grid heater has cycled in single digit temps.


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No you don't. Just hook up to the posts of the main battery and not the sister battery.
So you're saying the cheapest, thinnest cables will start a car just as well as more expensive ones? That is not my experience.

And, you're also saying that an 8cyl diesel engine with a 14:1 compression ratio (or thereabous) doesn't *necessarily* require more battery current to start it?

You're on borrowed time with 8yo batteries.

* This post was edited 10/31/11 09:23am by 2oldman *

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Thanks again everyone for all the tips and suggestions. Two new Diehards and I'm "on the road again".
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Glad to hear it and thanks for posting back to let everyone know.


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Just went through this yesterday with Dad on one of the tractors... Cummins 5.9L powered, by the way

He turns the key, it cranks over a few times, then nothing. Puts his best 2ga jumper cables on it. Nothing but clicks.

He's got a carbon-pile load tester. Puts that on, and the battery's got nothing. Meter drops to zero when he hits the load button.

Dang battery is only 5 years old. Back in the 1990's we were replacing batteries that were 15-20 years old. Now none of them are more than 3-5 years old.

Those carbon-pile load testers are a great investment if you've got several batteries to maintain. It takes the guesswork out of whether the battery is good or not.


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Fyi, The batteries went dead in my 99 PSD a few yrs ago,( left the dome lite on for a couple of days (dummy here)), but my jumper box/compressor from Costco was able to jump it. My mechanic says he uses his all the time to jump diesels.

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