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Posted: 11/08/11 10:04pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Salin'Shoes:
The phosphoric acid in Star San is not the active ingredient that makes this product a sanitizer. There has to be another sanitizing ingredient that is not listed in the company's literature. If their claim is that phosphoric acid is the sanitizer, be aware that that is not a product that is approved by any of the public health agencies for use to sanitize multiuse utensils in restaurants.

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Phosphoric acid is not the active ingredient in a sanitizer. I am aware of the process of sanitizing dishes and similar materials since I am a retired health inspector with over 30 years experience. Please note: multi use utensils(dishes, etc.) are to be sanitized by washing with a detergent( most machines have soap with potassium hydroxide to help remove stuck on food); rinsing with clean water; sanitizer(bleach at 50ppm) and a rinse agent is sprayed on WITHOUT drying the dishes mechanically because that's what the rinse agent does.

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Posted: 11/09/11 02:04am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Connect your hose to the inlet of your system. Pour the recommended amount of bleach for your fresh water tank's capacity into the other end of the hose using a funnel.
Connect the hose to your water faucet and add enough water to fill the rest of the hose. Let it set for a few minutes. Proceed to fill your fresh water tank and your entire system by opening each faucet and allowing the water to fill all the lines. You will be able to smell the bleach at each faucet. Let it set for 1 to 2 hours.
Open all faucets and run fresh water until the bleach smell goes away. You're done! You've sanitized your hose, the tank, and all the lines.

Now add a good filter and quit wasting money on bottled water. Not to mention all the plastic bottles you are putting into the landfills!
Sorry, I just had to add that!


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Posted: 11/09/11 04:19am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm with Ejforwood This is real easy. I do this 4 or 5 times a yr. Cathie

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I use the 12 volt pump I set up to fill the fresh water tank from jugs to pump some bleach/water through the hoses and let them sit full for awhile. Then pump some fresh water through and put away.

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@Dutch - FWIW, we don't use bleach in beer brewing because the residue will actually get incorporated in the fermentation process and yield some very off sub-flavors. But fermentation is a very complex biological process, and that's very different from plain old drinking water.

The advantage of bleach is that it will kill bulk growth like mildew. The disadvantage is that it requires 5 minutes to be effective. It also needs to be rinsed off, which leaves the surfaces damp and ready for more growth

The advantage of starsan is that it requires just 30 seconds and needs no rinsing, thus continuing to protect the surfaces.

All that said, brewing/fermentation requires a near-sterile process and plain old drinking water hardly requires that level of attention.


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FW hose is one of the least expensive items we deal with. I replace mine every spring.....


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paulcardoza wrote:

FW hose is one of the least expensive items we deal with. I replace mine every spring.....

I never use a new fresh hose without sanitizing it first.

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Starcraft21SSO wrote:

@Dutch - FWIW, we don't use bleach in beer brewing because the residue will actually get incorporated in the fermentation process and yield some very off sub-flavors. But fermentation is a very complex biological process, and that's very different from plain old drinking water.

The advantage of bleach is that it will kill bulk growth like mildew. The disadvantage is that it requires 5 minutes to be effective. It also needs to be rinsed off, which leaves the surfaces damp and ready for more growth

The advantage of starsan is that it requires just 30 seconds and needs no rinsing, thus continuing to protect the surfaces.

All that said, brewing/fermentation requires a near-sterile process and plain old drinking water hardly requires that level of attention.


HMMMMM, Brewing an Irish Stout in time for St Patrick's day AND cleaning the hoses to prep for the 2012 season sounds good to me! Think I'll give AG another whirl!


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Starcraft21SSO wrote:

@Dutch - FWIW, we don't use bleach in beer brewing because the residue will actually get incorporated in the fermentation process and yield some very off sub-flavors. But fermentation is a very complex biological process, and that's very different from plain old drinking water.

The advantage of bleach is that it will kill bulk growth like mildew. The disadvantage is that it requires 5 minutes to be effective. It also needs to be rinsed off, which leaves the surfaces damp and ready for more growth

The advantage of starsan is that it requires just 30 seconds and needs no rinsing, thus continuing to protect the surfaces.

All that said, brewing/fermentation requires a near-sterile process and plain old drinking water hardly requires that level of attention.

No argument here, I'm looking into using Star San for my spring sanitizing.

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