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Posted: 11/18/11 02:39pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

So what is the best temps to check pressures. If I check when 50* and check another day when it is only 30* there is about 4lbs difference. Actually that is the difference shown on my TST tire pressure monitor. How close do you really need to be to the magic number.
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From my old days as an aircraft mechanic, tire pressure does increase under load (not talking about the temp/pressure increase due to operation). Goodyear specifies the pressure for a tire/wheel assembly not mounted on an aircraft or with the aircraft on jacks. They say to add 4% to that figure when the aircraft is resting on the tires. For vehicle tires it may be a different percentage.

For an explanation of tire pressure behavior, look here.


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What's odd is, I air my tires up to 80 PSI, then load 4000lbs of camper in the bed and the tires still read 80PSI.


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Posted: 11/18/11 04:27pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Tires are rated higher with higher psi; Air them up before you add the weight. Air bags: I back under the TC, inflate the bags, lower the TC and adjust as needed. Air Bag PSI depends on your truck and camper.


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12thgenusa wrote:

From my old days as an aircraft mechanic, tire pressure does increase under load (not talking about the temp/pressure increase due to operation). Goodyear specifies the pressure for a tire/wheel assembly not mounted on an aircraft or with the aircraft on jacks. They say to add 4% to that figure when the aircraft is resting on the tires. For vehicle tires it may be a different percentage.

For an explanation of tire pressure behavior, look here.


I agree. Think of it like a pneumatic cylinder, if it's starts with a specific volume of air(0-psi), as it is compressed, the pressure increases. Now, the amount of air injected into a tire doesn't change but the volume of a circle reduces(cubic feet or inches).
Reality, not enough in a tire that we would have to worry about, thus the readings others have noticed when checking loaded/unloaded.
But factually, you are correct.

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Posted: 11/18/11 06:52pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I air my tires and bags up on the way to pick up the camper. About 45psi in the bags (I store the camper almost at loading height on stands). When I load the camper the tire pressure doesn't change enough to notice, but the little air bags do. After loading the camper, I let out enough air from the bags that the overload springs touch, or they are just shy of contacting.


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Posted: 11/18/11 07:38pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Old-Biscuit wrote:

When the tires are cold........

80# is 80# regardless if TC is on truck or not.
But 80# when tire is cold is different than 80# when tire is hot
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It is not always needed to air up to 80 psi for E-load tires.
Especially Americans often take heavyer tires on their Camper, for instance if original is D load they take E or even F load tires, thinking this is better.
But on softer ground the D load gives more gripp and langer surface on the ground, and more comfort.
But the tires together must bare the GAWR ( Gross axle weight ratings) + a reserve of minimum 10% , so somethimes 1 -load more can be usefull. Also mind that an E-load tire with the same sises needs a higher pressure for the same load then a D-load tire.


The needed tire-pressure can be calculated with the save European Formula that I got hold of once, and made spreadsheets with.
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