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Dan Henry

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Posted: 01/01/12 08:50pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I am going to replace my IBC with a Tekonsha P3 Electric Brake Control and would like some info on where to install and how others have done this. I have had problems and do not trust the IBC any longer and appears that Chrysler is not going to fix the problem, maybe the 2012 have been fixed but the guys with a 10 or 11 are not going get any help. This is sorry !! But I like the truck less the IBC.

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I asked this a while ago.
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ReverendCharles wrote:

How do I wire the brake controller into my dash and where should I locate it? I have the tow package with a 7 pin round connector in the bumper.



Go to etrailer.com. Do a search, they have an excellent write-up.

This site has good instructions.

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Buy the wire harness and plug it in. Mine is mounted right above the throttle under the dash.


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Posted: 01/01/12 10:14pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Not as easy as it sounds. There is no dedicated plug and play connector available if you already have the IBC in your truck and want to replace it. You will also need to provide power and a ground to the original IBC to fool it and keep it from showing a message on your dash. Won't be as easy as looking at E-Trailer. It can be done though...and in my opinion will be well worth it.

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So I'm a bit curious, what is it you don't like about the factory IBC?


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ScottG wrote:

So I'm a bit curious, what is it you don't like about the factory IBC?


Me too.


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I don't trust the IBC, have had several warning msg that the trailer is disconnected and when the msg is displayed I do not have any trailer brakes, the msg comes and goes with out any warning . I have driven over some very rough roads and no msg, over nice and smooth and get the msg. Dodge has checked the truck and they say it is OK. On the Ram forum there are several people that are having similar problems and Dodge is not doing any thing to help. The 2012 has some changes to the IBC,don't know if this helped but the 2011 can not update with the 2012 change, my truck is 2011 3500
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Your not alone. I have heard of it far to much between this site and the Dodge sites. Just to think someone was bragging yesterday how great the IBC's were
I have never done it (2006 truck) but from what I've read it's not just plug and play. You will need to select the proper wires to let the IBC think it is still the boss. PITA no doubt.
I would suggest searching one of the Dodge sites also if you don't get detailed information on this site. Lots of wire behind that dash now days. Hit the wrong one your air bags could deploy when you turn on the wipers
I am really surprised NTSB or the correct agency hasn't issued something about this. My truck has good brakes, but not 11 tons worth.
Good Luck and keep the thread going if you find the proper fix


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ScottG wrote:

So I'm a bit curious, what is it you don't like about the factory IBC?

I have a 2010 with an IBC. They have only one adjustment. You can set how much gain and that's it. You cannot set how soon the brakes come on and how long they stay on. Mine come on late and kick out too soon resulting in me having to use the manual control to get a smooth stop. I have my IBC set to 10, as high as it will go. I adjusted my trailer brakes and know my system is operating correctly. Judging by the amount of brake dust on the front wheels of my truck it's easy to see what brakes are doing the most work. Chrysler has been no help. The 2012 models have a new brake controller that you can also adjust for the weight of your trailer. This tells me they knew something was wrong with the IBC on the 2010 and 2011 models. I'm not going to let this piece of junk get me in an accident. It just doesn't work the way I want it too. Not everyone is unhappy with theirs but a lot of us are.

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Dan,

I have a 2010 3500 and like you, was total unhappy with the performance of the IBC. I added the P3 and have been extremely pleased with the braking performance on my 14,000 5th.

Simply attached the P3 under the dash, to the left screw that holds the lower trim panel (under the steering wheel) in place. In order to "fool" the computer into thinking the stock unit is still working, thus avoiding the trouble code from showing up on the Information Screen, I used a quick splice on the power lead of the OEM unit (yellow and blue stripe I believe) to tap into the battery power lead on the P3 (Black I believe), and a ground wire from the OEM units ground (don't remember the color, but is on the lower right corner of the plug, opposite of the upper left wire, which is the battery power).
The harness shown for the 2010 - 2011 Dodge from Tekonsha is #3021-P, which is NOT correct. This may be for a truck that DOES NOT HAVE the factory OEM unit, but is NOT correct if you have the OEM unit. On my truck (2010 3500), the factory plug is a male spade connection, and on the #3021-P, it is male as well. Needless to say, it won't work. The correct harness for trucks with the IBC is #3045-P harness, which is listed as a harness for a 2011 Jeep/Durango.
Hope this helps.


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