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Posted: 02/10/12 12:46pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sometimes the "new" tire you buy is actually a couple of years old. It would be best to check the date code on the sidewall to determine the real age of the tire. They do start aging as soon as they leave the mold, but certainly quicker when in the sun etc.


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Posted: 02/10/12 07:04pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Mine were 5 yrs. old, not over loaded and not dry rotted plenty of tread.

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covered wagon wrote:

tilemantim wrote:

Mine were 5 yrs. old, not over loaded and not dry rotted plenty of tread.


I have never seen that poor of luck with a 5 yr. old tire. Can you remember what brand it was? I think it was a combination of some age but,IMHO,the tire was defective according to my terms.




Pro comp AT's. Yes I believe there was a defect but the fact they were 5 years old does also have to be factored in.

I believe 7 years is max on tires thats what I learned with Motor home tires.Tileman

On edit; I just reread your OP, stating that your tires held 45 lbs of pressure. I honestly do not know if the amount of air that can be put into a tire gives a clue as to it's strength but, my wifes subaru forrester takes 44 lbs.

In my opinion your tires are too soft and flexed themselves into tread seperation with the heat. You need with the approx. 2,000 lbs you are carrying much better tires.


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Posted: 02/11/12 09:40am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would think that you would want to find a set of tires that can hold somewhere around 65 p.s.i air.

I used to live in Cotati right by you yrs. ago.

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Posted: 02/11/12 03:45am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Yes. I've seen it before, on 4 BFG TA/Ko's (LR E rating) that had under 20,000 kilometers on them, and nearly no tread wear whatsoever -- at 3 year of age !.

What I did:

Uninstalled them after storage, sent them to the tire recyclers, and had service station replace with $300+ @ Micheline AT2s

$1000 worth of stale rubber tires {even tires with 0 (zero)} miles on them at a few years old use isn't worth gambling your life with. On edit: What I mean by this is: whether our BFGs were stale-dated at 3-years use + 1 year on shelf, or had been defective at manufacture wasn't the issue; safety first. Tires are your absolute last life-line, if they go, it is only extreme skill and a lot of luck that will keep one from perishing in a heavy-duty vehicle-- especially with thousands a pounds of truck camper on payload.

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Sometimes the "new" tire you buy is actually a couple of years old. It would be best to check the date code on the sidewall to determine the real age of the tire.


This is exceptionally good advice. This should be in a Sticky at the top of the Truck Camper Forum threads.

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* This post was edited 02/11/12 04:06am by silversand *


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Posted: 02/10/12 11:20pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

tilemantim wrote:

Mine were 5 yrs. old, not over loaded and not dry rotted plenty of tread.


I have never seen that poor of luck with a 5 yr. old tire. Can you remember what brand it was? I think it was a combination of some age but,IMHO,the tire was defective according to my terms.

On edit; I just reread your OP, stating that your tires held 45 lbs of pressure. I honestly do not know if the amount of air that can be put into a tire gives a clue as to it's strength but, my wifes subaru forrester takes 44 lbs.

In my opinion your tires are too soft and flexed themselves into tread seperation with the heat. You need with the approx. 2,000 lbs you are carrying much better tires.

* This post was edited 02/10/12 11:30pm by covered wagon *

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Posted: 02/11/12 02:05pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

tilemantim wrote:

Covered Wagon, Cotati sure has changed over the years, but they still have the Accordion festival...


How cool is that?!

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JoeChiOhki wrote:

No, old are the 1996 Michelins we still have on our family's '85 Chevy Suburban that are still not dry rotted. Even older were the '89 Uniroyal Tube Bias ply tires on our family's '79 Chevy C20 camper special that we sold back in 2006 that also weren't dry rotted and held up to hauling heavy loads.


My understanding is that tires on vehicle that is used on a regular basis will last much longer. The flexing/working action of the tread helps keep the volatile compounds in the rubber moving, and that reduces rotting and checking.

I suspect that modern distilation and rubber compounding has a lot to do with it, too. Trying to wring the last drop of volatiles out of the rubber, to sell as fuels and such


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Posted: 02/11/12 11:32am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Very interesting the justifications to ignore that age is a serious consideration.If folks want to run old tires that is their choice but I'll bet they check the date code on the milk carton or sourcream before taking a big slug EVEN if "it looks good to me". Why....if age is not important does DOT require a date code at all????

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Posted: 02/11/12 10:02am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Covered Wagon, Cotati sure has changed over the years, but they still have the Accordion festival...

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