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captbru

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Posted: 02/13/12 06:48pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Just got the new truck GMC 3500HD DRW, disel 4x4, it has the built in brake controler. I have a hitch company reinstalling the fifth wheel hitch tomorrow then I'll see how the trailer rides. My question is the owners manual from GMC states set the controler so the brakes don't lock up but just below that. I have never set a controler up before. I know you have to be moving and then manual slide the switch to stop. How do I know the brakes lock up or the brakes are slowly stoping the whole thing?????


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Posted: 02/13/12 07:01pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Go slow, like 10-15 mph, and apply the trailer brakes. If you hear skidding, it's set too strong, back it off till the tire skid ceases.


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Posted: 02/13/12 07:23pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If the brakes lock on pavement you'll know it. It sounds like screeching tires and everyone within earshot looks your way.
On gravel, it will leave skid marks.
Setting up a brake control isn't an exact science. It takes some time to get the feel for the rig and how you want the brakes to react. Different road conditions, speeds, and trailer weights will also change things a bit.
You just need practice to get the hang of it.

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Posted: 02/13/12 09:07pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

captbru wrote:

Just got the new truck GMC 3500HD DRW, disel 4x4, it has the built in brake controler. I have a hitch company reinstalling the fifth wheel hitch tomorrow then I'll see how the trailer rides. My question is the owners manual from GMC states set the controler so the brakes don't lock up but just below that. I have never set a controler up before. I know you have to be moving and then manual slide the switch to stop. How do I know the brakes lock up or the brakes are slowly stoping the whole thing?????


Captbru

If you have a trailer side connector that has twin contact terminals you will want to replace it as soon as possible. The twin contact terminal trailer plug doesn't work well with your tow vehicle receptacle. The trailer plug terminals just touch the tips of the TV terminals. This will cause high insertion force and intermittent connections when the connector is rocked slightly.

Your truck receptacle is designed to SAE J2863 specification. The spec dictates that a flat blade style terminal 7 pin RV trailer plug be used with the truck receptacle.

You can purchase a new flat blade style connector or replace the entire pigtail with a new water proof flat blade style connector. This connector will fully mate with your tow vehicle receptacle and provide a reliable connection.

I have done the dimensional layouts and x-rayed the mated connector pairs. Some twin contact terminals are better than others, but they all suffer the same problem. They are not designed to work with receptacles on the tow vehicle.

All people with the 7 pin RV twin contact terminal should replace the trailer connector. Unfortunately this is what is on most RV's.

There are many suppliers of the flat blade style 7 pin RV plugs. Below are two that I would recommend. The Pollak is a cheap repair that works well. The Hopkins is a high quality pigtail that has tin plated contacts and is water proof. This is what I will be using on my TT.

The replacement connector is a Pollak Heavy duty 7 pin RV
http://pollak.thomasnet.com/item/connectors/rv-connectors-heavy-duty-adaptors/12-706?

The replacement pigtail is a Hopkins Manufacturing
http://www.hopkinstowingsolutions.com/products/basic_wiring/standard_connectors/7-pole_rv_blades/7_rv_blade_molded_trailer_cable_8_ft_.html

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Posted: 02/14/12 07:23am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Your owners manual provides a very simple procedure to set the brake control level. I recommend downloading it. I find it easier to search for things.


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Posted: 02/14/12 08:33am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Frankly, you'd have to be deaf and blind to not notice when the tires lock up. It's that obvious.

Once you've gotten your initial setting, you'll be able to "feel" out what works best for you. After a couple of stops you'll know if you've got too much or not enough brake action, and can make slight adjustments to compensate.


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