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Take a look at the 2013 Mazda CX5. They have alot of features, AWD, and a great price. They are very new, so you may not find one around yet, although I have seen one. Mileage is supposed to be good, but not alot of power in the offering. I will give it a look and alot of others, as like you, DW is starting to want to replace the 4-Runner that is just barely getting broken in at 110K miles.

I just happen to love the Subaru Outback, and that AWD is amazing....3.6L limited is the only one for me though as the 4 cyl is just too weak, or appears that way when driving.

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Ib just get Mamma her Jeep....remember if mamma's happy everybody is happy!


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JALLEN4 wrote:

Jarlaxle wrote:

No, repeat no, repeat NO all-wheel drive vehicle needs all 4 tires replaced if one is damaged. This is a fallacy perpetuated by dishonest dealers & tire salesmen!


Wrong! If you go to the Tire Rack website, they give an in-depth analysis of this fact and an alternative as to how to deal with it. They also have many excerpts from different manufacturer's owner manuals stating this reguirement.

A little research will show several other sources for this information.


Well, of course--Tire Rack would much rather sell you four tires than one!


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Do you qualify for any kind of discount through work or retiree plan?

We were in the same boat recently. Having the X-Plan, GM, and Chrysler discount plans helps to take the negotiation out of car buying. I know I might get a little better deal, but it's not worth the aggrevation...

Anyway, our final selection came to a hard decision between the Huyndai Sante Fe and a Ford Edge. We settled on the Edge with the ecoboost 4-cylinder. So far, the wife loves it. Ours is 2WD, but it's available in AWD.


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Jarlaxle wrote:

JALLEN4 wrote:

Jarlaxle wrote:

No, repeat no, repeat NO all-wheel drive vehicle needs all 4 tires replaced if one is damaged. This is a fallacy perpetuated by dishonest dealers & tire salesmen!


Wrong! If you go to the Tire Rack website, they give an in-depth analysis of this fact and an alternative as to how to deal with it. They also have many excerpts from different manufacturer's owner manuals stating this reguirement.

A little research will show several other sources for this information.


Well, of course--Tire Rack would much rather sell you four tires than one!


That's a good one. I am sure the manufacturer's owner manuals are designed to sell you tires also! You can lead a person to knowledge but you just can't make them partake of it.

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Why not have the Honda dealer remove the addons? chances are the mudflaps are a direct bolt on, so there should be no screw holes. the wheel locks are an easy switch and the "other thing" you mention may be pin striping. if it is a stick on stripe have them peel it off. the dealer I used to work at charged $199 for the $5 worth of pin striping! I would sit down and talk with the dealer.


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Well, it looks like the short list goes like this:

- Honda CR-V & Mazda CX-5, tied for #1 (back to back test drives will make the decision)
- Jeep and Equinox if the issues have been solved.

Now a couple other things to consider:
- New Ford Escape coming soon with EcoBoost technology - I wouldn't even consider the current Escape
- Next model year, the Mazda CX-5 is getting a 2.2L SkyActive turbo diesel. 55 mpg hwy, no DEF. Hmmmmm
- Next year, the Jeep Compass is being redesigned (it's going to be all new on the Dodge Dart's new platform apparently)

Looks like we might wait another year


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Buy whatever the Mrs. wants - happy Mrs.=happy household I influenced my wife on all of her previous vehicles and I'll never do that again. She just got a new vehicle and the only thing I did was negotiate the numbers.

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ib516 wrote:

Well, it looks like the short list goes like this:

- Honda CR-V & Mazda CX-5, tied for #1 (back to back test drives will make the decision)
- Jeep and Equinox if the issues have been solved.

Now a couple other things to consider:
- New Ford Escape coming soon with EcoBoost technology - I wouldn't even consider the current Escape
- Next model year, the Mazda CX-5 is getting a 2.2L SkyActive turbo diesel. 55 mpg hwy, no DEF. Hmmmmm
- Next year, the Jeep Compass is being redesigned (it's going to be all new on the Dodge Dart's new platform apparently)

Looks like we might wait another year


If you drive the CX-5, let us know how it does!! I have read that it handles great, but cannot get my wife to just go test one until she is completely ready to buy. A diesel version would be nice.

I have priced the new Ford Escape, and came away surprised at how expensive it is comparatively equipped as the CX-5, but it did have the 2.0L Ecoboost motor....but 6K more??!! Will have to try one just to see.

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Hey ib516, pm me and i will be happy to assist you in getting a fair shake on a new CRV or anything for that matter. I have been in the business for 21 years and was in the Honda business for 10 years. FYI, the actual cost of wheel locks and splash guards is approximately $200 these days.

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