I have noticed this in our current rig. While it has windows, only a small portion of the bottom of the window cranks open. By small I mean a 3 inch high by 12 inch small portion. On our previous Palomino Stampede we could let lots of fresh air in, windows opened big time.
What I notice more is that our door does not have a window. I see that and think really, how much did the manufacturer save?
I am sure the older TT were heavier, and the push for new lite weights has possibly cause the industry to the point where every hole in the wall compromises structural integrity. Add to that slide out rooms and what is left to hold the rig together and keep it lite enough to be pulled by a ½ ton truck or SUV.
All our heat sources vent on the NON-AWNING side of the TT (frig, water heater, furnace) that is a nice touch.
Putting a window in the door is on my list by the way, I just don’t want frosted glass.
one of the very few cons on our list for our current TT was that the windows only go up n down versus on a slant ... really miss being able to open the windows in the rain
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'tiredTeacher wrote: WandaLust2 = I am with you 100%! I know exactly where you're coming from. I too would love a brand new 1975 to 1980 Sunline, Shasta or Terry.
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Start mentioning it to other campers where you camp and you will find many old timers who remember the bright, airy cheerful campers of the past with those jalousie windows and lots of them. You will also find many have the same complaints about windows, darkness, horrid interior colors etc. Younger campers who never seen or camped in the older TTs will be more satisfied with the new dark poorly ventilated ones. They simply don't know any better or came up from tent camping.
Quote: You'll notice in my signature I have a 1995 Sunline. Bought it cheap and fixed it up. Three windows in the bedroom, one in the bath, four in the galley/dining/living area and they all open! Five are jalousy, the others open 50%.
I'm not looking to buy a new trailer, I was just sayin'...
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Yeah I saw that. Unfortunately, when we looked for a larger TT for snow-birding there were no older Sunlines available that met our needs, plus the Co went out of business. And after being shafted with our 1st used TT, we're a little paranoid about buying used. Used older TTs are all over Craigslist where we live but we don't want to have to put the time and money into another one to get it usable. We're getting up in years and not up to any projects like that again. So we put up with the short comings of the new TTs.
I'm with Kittykath. We have a 26RLS (Jayco) plenty of windows and a good mix that slides open but also have 2 on each end (bed & LR) that can open when its rains.
Are they adjustable or have one setting = open all the way? These I believe are called awning windows and blowing rain will come in the sides. We have two on our TT, BOTH on the same side so there is no cross ventilation. We finally bought these. They're not great but do keep the rain out and let some air in. The pic is not our RV but from and add. Can you imagine having to do this just to get fresh air in the new TTs?
We also bought a Fantastic Fan and MaxxAire so we can breathe when it rains. Heartland would not replace the cheap sliders with jalousie windows even when we offered to pay to have it done before delivery.
Quote: In fact the other day I was getting ready to order some dark fake wood blinds I thought...boy we have a lot of windows! I love it and the big back window is perfect for us (just 2 of us, not kids)
I hadn't notice the lack of windows on others...I''ll look now though
If you don't need sleeping at both ends you can find TTs with back windows. That was not the case with us. We needed a bunkhouse with beds at both ends. Had Heartland used jalousie windows that were not tinted dark, all would have been great. Or had they been willing to satisfy us and replace the two large ones before delivery - that would have been great. I'd never buy another Heartland RV unless they stop using the dark tinted windows and the cheap slider windows.
Quote: =Kittykath=WandaLust2=KittykathAm I missing something here? We bought our 2012 Cougar 321RES because of the generous amount and size of windows and cabinets. If you look, you can find both I guess.
Not everyone wants a 32' TT. Among other things, it wouldn't fit in many of the older CGs. I saw no "Cougars" when looking at TTs.
Quote: The 321RES is actually 35+ feet and the extra length most likely allows for additional windows. Makes sense.
We're in a seasonal campground so no worries about finding the right site either. Wouldn't want to pull this thing around on a regular basis. But I sure do love my views from the huge windows.
You're comparing apples to oranges. There is no comparison. Yours is more like a "mobile" home than a TT. Yours is more a park model. It's more or less stationary. We use our TT for both camping and snow-birding so needed one to fit in most CGs. One easy to haul. Our BRS28 will fit in just about any CG's sites. Hauling around a 35' TT is not something we would want to do.
We have a lot of driverside windows but really wish we had more curbside windows. I really hate that the pack n play has that giant unusable window. It lets in some light but you can't see out of it and you can't open it. I actually wish the pack n play had a screen door and I could just leave the thing open. Contemplating trying to make one on my own. Have seen some nice rear kitchen and rear living models that have some real big windows down the side and in the back, a lot harder to find in a bunk model.
I agree, with needing windows. our current TT has 2 windows in the kids bedroom, 2 windows in our bedroom, a window behind the couch, a big window by the dinette, and 2 skylites over the dinette also, there is a sky lite over the kitchen sink and a counter to cieling window behind the sink. we like the open spacious feel of our trailer, and if we want privacy they offer these neat features called blinds.
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Quote: =Kittykath=WandaLust2=KittykathAm I missing something here? We bought our 2012 Cougar 321RES because of the generous amount and size of windows and cabinets. If you look, you can find both I guess.
Not everyone wants a 32' TT. Among other things, it wouldn't fit in many of the older CGs. I saw no "Cougars" when looking at TTs.
Quote: The 321RES is actually 35+ feet and the extra length most likely allows for additional windows. Makes sense.
We're in a seasonal campground so no worries about finding the right site either. Wouldn't want to pull this thing around on a regular basis. But I sure do love my views from the huge windows.
You're comparing apples to oranges. There is no comparison. Yours is more like a "mobile" home than a TT. Yours is more a park model. It's more or less stationary. We use our TT for both camping and snow-birding so needed one to fit in most CGs. One easy to haul. Our BRS28 will fit in just about any CG's sites. Hauling around a 35' TT is not something we would want to do.
It pulls around just fine. Nice and light. We'll travel with it someday.
I was simply stating that there are plenty of new/newer units out there, big or small, that offer larger and more windows. My BIL just picked up a brand new 30' which offered just one less window than mine. He has the extra large dinette and picture windows too. In fact there are so many windows in both units, there's hardly a space to hang anything.
At least at the RV shows we've attended, we noticed that feature specifically. I've had campers of all shapes and sizes, the oldest being a 1977 Class C. It seems there was a time in the late 90's where the manufactures skimped on windows. Doesn't seem that way anymore. Just my opinion.
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Unfortunately, when we looked for a larger TT for snow-birding there were no older Sunlines available that met our needs, plus the Co went out of business. And after being shafted with our 1st used TT, we're a little paranoid about buying used. Used older TTs are all over Craigslist where we live but we don't want to have to put the time and money into another one to get it usable. We're getting up in years and not up to any projects like that again. So we put up with the short comings of the new TTs.
