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Posted: 04/30/12 06:19am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I tow an Everlite 33QB with my 2011 Yukon XL Denali and I had sway issues until I re-did th hitch setup that th dealer installed, now it I perfect, wouldn't look at another TV. Must make sure it is a longer wheel base model, and make sure the hitch is set up properly


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I had a 3/4 ton Yukon XL for pulling my 27 foot trailer and was fantastic. Used a weight distribution hitch and had no sway issues ever. I never even realized the trailer was behind me most of the time....except when filling up. What a pig on gas.

Last year I switched to a 1/2 ton Cadillac Escalade EXT (same wheel base as the Yukon XL) and it was just as good towing, but had even better fuel economy.


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I may like to avoid the 2500 as I assume the 6.0L V8 is worse on gas (at least when not towing) and I have to say that I simply don't see many/any used ones around.

The main issue right now with the 1500's for me is payload capacity. At around #1600 (on the 2009) and a possible tongue weight of a #6500 trailer at #1000....that scares me a bit tight now. Only #600 for family and gear....

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A question about tongue weight: if the dry tongue weight is #400 and the dry weight of trailer is about #4000 with a capacity to #6500, if the trailer was filled to capacity would the tongue weight be about #650? ..or am I way off here...

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Used 3/4 tons are hard to find. And yes, they get worse fuel economy. Although ours at 12k miles now (in 6 months) is improving to 13.5-14mpg mix commuting vs. 12.5 when new. Could just be the warmer weather too. As you test drive some various models, check the driver's door or door jam for a Yellow Tire and Loading sticker with the as equipped payload. Many of the half ton Suburbans and Yukon XLs I looked at and test drove where around 1400 pounds. The Expedition EL seems to be a bit higher.

Plan for 250 pounds over dry tongue weight. You'll add propane tanks, maybe another battery, and stuff the front outside storage full. Some of it will go back to the TT axles with weight distribution, and you'll probably end back near the dry tongue weight on the truck's axles.

Load as much in the TT instead of the TV.


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I'm seriously looking at a 2004 outback 25rss (asking $12500) paired with a Yukon XL/Suburban 1500. This model is #1000 lighter than 2006 onward: #4800 dry, #6000 total. Also, the walls are a tad under 10', now they are over 10'. Listed hitchweight is #400...can anyone give me a best guess of what this will actually be?

Can I assume these two 1500's, when equiped with tow package, will have the 3.72 gear ratio? Is it worth switching out to 4.1(or whatever it is)?

Is this setup doable? (maybe one 3000 miile roundtrip a year, a few 100 mile away getaways per year?)

Thanks once more to everyone taking there time here, it is GREATLY appreciated.

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Posted: 05/01/12 05:40pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

So best guess on hitch weight is usually 13-15% of loaded weight. That means a max of 900 lbs for a GVWR of 6000 lbs. Looking at this TT only having a 1200 lb cargo capacity, you will probably be close to GVWR on this one. Keep in mind that when using a WDH some of the tongue weight will be transferred back to the TT (average consensus is about 20% of tongue weight transferred back to the trailer). So that actually looks like a load of 720 lbs on your TV.

As for the gear ratio, you need to find out for certain what ratio they have. You may find yourself wishing for more power in the mountains on the longer trips.


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Posted: 05/01/12 07:42pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

pmorosin wrote:

A question about tongue weight: if the dry tongue weight is #400 and the dry weight of trailer is about #4000 with a capacity to #6500, if the trailer was filled to capacity would the tongue weight be about #650? ..or am I way off here...
Phil, if the trailer's loaded weight is 6500#, the tongue weight should be approximately 850# for good resistance to sway.

Ron

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