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I've posted these pics for Onaquest......as you can see in the picture...this is the issue he is having.......how to get to the backside of the brake hose??.....Anyone have any suggestions?
Picture #1 is the hose I am dealing with
Picture #2 is what I expected to see
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OnaQuest
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Thanks for posting the photos, Eric
As I've said before, there is a motor mount and frame cross member directly behind that hose attachment to the frame. I can see the other side through a very small opening between obstructions, but have not been able to get any kind of tool in there to remove the clip on the other side.
I'm not sure there is enough slack in the solid hose to pull anything through the hole, even if I got the clip off. I'll try again tomorrow.
I've been drinking vodka tonic since bout 4pm, so the problem is beginning to seem a bit less serious. LOL
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now that is a problem that i would not want!
i will make a suggestion (and i am not trying to be a S A**)
if you cannot get access to the other side i would just hacksaw the hose as close to the frame as possible, then run NEW metal line to the location i could reach on the other side of the frame. you will just need a union to join to the metal line that goes to the master cyl. may need to fabricate a bracket to hold the new hose to the frame.
hope this helps you.
Bob
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supermod38 wrote:now that is a problem that i would not want!
i will make a suggestion (and i am not trying to be a S A**)
if you cannot get access to the other side i would just hacksaw the hose as close to the frame as possible, then run NEW metal line to the location i could reach on the other side of the frame. you will just need a union to join to the metal line that goes to the master cyl. may need to fabricate a bracket to hold the new hose to the frame.
hope this helps you.
Bob
While this may seem like a good idea, the flare fittings are "double flared" as required by law. Brakes are not something to do improperly. I have the double flare tools and avoid using them when ever possible. It's a PITA. Probably the best and safest option is to remove what ever is necessary to get a tubing wrench on the flair nut.
Richard
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OnaQuest
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Richard, I agree with your above post.
I want to publicly thank you for all the (off-line) help you've provided on this, and other problems I've had lately.
The photo of your '95 hose was especially enlightening as I didn't know there was a difference, and only assumed that it was just me who couldn't see this as an easy fix.
The vodka is starting to go down real easy. LOL
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Now you know its suppose to rain tomorrow, so dont get out there tonight after that Vodka gets working & fall asleep under the M/H 
Be sad your wife wake up next morning & wonder where you are, then bout that time you walk in all dripping wet.
Looking at that pic, man you do have a problem.
Just thinking, there would be no way, that clip on the backside would hold that fitting enough to get the rubber hose loose.
Can you do a pic of the backside, so we can see what your dealing with.
I got a pic in my mind of how our 98 looks, but I think the 97s are different.
Neil
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Again I ask why do you feel like you need to replace it? Someone else on this forum made a few statements about what "might" happen. I have read these same statements before on this forum, yet never known anyone who had proof that they caused an issue which was then fixed by replaceing them.
Will this thread be the first one that will prove that non-leaking hoses should really be replaced with hard evidence. If it is, I would really appreciate it since I have a '96 F53 and would like the knowledge. If it doesn't fix anything, please state that also. I know "BigKatuna" was fighting a sticky brake issue and the hose replacement did not fix the problem.
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John&Joey wrote:Again I ask why do you feel like you need to replace it? Someone else on this forum made a few statements about what "might" happen. I have read these same statements before on this forum, yet never known anyone who had proof that they caused an issue which was then fixed by replaceing them.
Will this thread be the first one that will prove that non-leaking hoses should really be replaced with hard evidence. If it is, I would really appreciate it since I have a '96 F53 and would like the knowledge. If it doesn't fix anything, please state that also. I know "BigKatuna" was fighting a sticky brake issue and the hose replacement did not fix the problem.
John&Joey, I'm replacing them just because I've lived long enough to know that 15 year old rubber hoses can begin to disintegrate and cause problems. I remove, and either replace or rebuild my brake calipers about every three years. I usually suffer at least one hot wheel (caused by a dragging brake pad) in the third year if I don't follow that pattern.
There was/is no reason why I should have had this most recent problem (one wheel hot) between the aforementioned maintenance cycles unless there is some obstruction in the line to retard return fluid flow.
A problem with just one wheel does NOT indicate a systemic failure, like a master cylinder or a hydro boost, so I suspected the hose.
I have NO problem with replacing the hoses, after 15 years, on a "just because" basis.
Replacing the hoses may, or may not, completely cure the problem. I'll really never know because I've already removed, serviced and replaced the caliper on that particular wheel.
The replacement of the hoses is merely a preventative maintenance procedure and I feel it's justified. YMMV
PS - If I recall correctly, BigKatuna had a master cylinder failure. Since he had multiple brakes dragging, he had reason to suspect the problem was a unit common to all wheels. Not the case with mine.
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My 97 Ford Class A had nothing but brake problems from day one. My repair man suggested the brake hose issue. Changed them, no more problems. He cut one apart, yes, it was swollen shut in the middle.
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Pirate wrote:My 97 Ford Class A had nothing but brake problems from day one. My repair man suggested the brake hose issue. Changed them, no more problems. He cut one apart, yes, it was swollen shut in the middle.
Thanks for the input.
I'm really surprised that Big K hasn't stepped into the thread. He went thru all of the suggested fixes and never fixed the problem until he bought a DP.
Nothing wrong with PM that's for sure. If the hose does fix the one heating brake please post back. If everything else is serviced, then that would be the end answer. If once the hose was off could you also please do the cut apart and photo for the rest of us to see.
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