First of all welcome to the board! We are very familiar with Winona, my wife's family is from there and we took our HTT down there last fall just before the season closed up. We have a 21' Jayco HTT (X20E) that has two beds and a slide out. Our slide out has a couch that folds into a bed. The nice thing about this is the extra living space it provides. I am familar with a Jayco that has a third set of tent bends and I think the real difference would having the extra privacy a curtain will provide in the sleeping area, plus the extra storage during the daytime. We are empty nesters and still fold down the extra bunks on ours to give us more storage for our luggage, otherwise it can be a real hassle moving things around at bedtime and then the transition to living...
Happy to answer any questions you might have, we'll be headed to the Dells over the 4th of July week...
Thanks everyone for your input, much appreciated. I guess it's all just a moot point now, my husband just plain and simple refuses to drive any kind of low gas mileage vehicle for the kind of driving I apparently do (note my sad sarcasm ) He was sold on a hybrid Tahoe, but it looks like it's rated nearly 2K lbs less towing capability than a regular. So, either I start looking for a PUP or put my camping dreams on hold. Luckily, I didn't sell the tent yet *sigh* And yes, this realization did produce tears today....over a camper of all things Thanks again everyone.
We have a 2005 KZ Coyote with 3 beds, couch and dinette. We do not have the u-shaped dinette. Only during rain do we all sit inside or eat and did not feel that was a necessity for us. We usually travel with 3 teen boys. 2 share a queen size bed with no problems. We try to avoid using the table and couch as a sleeping area because we dont like the daily set up and take down. We started with a tent, then a PUP and now a Hybrid. I can not say we wont ever swith to a TT or even motorhome, but for right now we love our Hybrid and have made a ton of memories.
Good luck making your decision and happy camping!
Do not dispare. While you may not be able to get as big a trailer as you thought you can still get a high milage minivan that gets 20+mpg and get a decent Pup trailer or just a smaller HTT. We have frequently camped next to people that get a Jayco X17Z or X18D and they are pulling it with a Dodge Mini-Van
The interesting thing about hybrids, is that people rarely do the math. A Tahoe LT 4wd, with the towing package, is tow rated at 8200 lbs. The 4wd Tahoe Hybrid is rated at 5900. Hybrid city MPG is 20, while non-hybrid is only 15, yes, that's true. However, the hybrid is stickered at $6000 more, and since everyone is looking for that hybrid, chances are, you'll get a better deal on the non-hybrid. Still, using MSRP as a guide, and $3.80 per gallon for fuel, you will have to drive that hybrid for 100,000 miles, before you see any savings. $3.80/20=$.19 per mile, $3.80/15=$.25 per mile, a difference of $.06 per mile. $6000/.$06= 100,000.
botterbein wrote: The interesting thing about hybrids, is that people rarely do the math. A Tahoe LT 4wd, with the towing package, is tow rated at 8200 lbs. The 4wd Tahoe Hybrid is rated at 5900. Hybrid city MPG is 20, while non-hybrid is only 15, yes, that's true. However, the hybrid is stickered at $6000 more, and since everyone is looking for that hybrid, chances are, you'll get a better deal on the non-hybrid. Still, using MSRP as a guide, and $3.80 per gallon for fuel, you will have to drive that hybrid for 100,000 miles, before you see any savings. $3.80/20=$.19 per mile, $3.80/15=$.25 per mile, a difference of $.06 per mile. $6000/.$06= 100,000.
We did the math and are not buying new (were looking at a couple of '08s). They were priced about $4-7K lower than their NON hybrid matches (year/mileage). You are right, buying NEW would be dumb. But, after researching them more and reading reviews, I don't think we are interested in them anymore.
the fact that "better" hybrid tahoes are cheaper than gasses would make me run for the exits.
We had many years of fond camping with our Coleman Bayside popup and Chevy Trailblazer. We have several friends that tow their 12-14' box popups with minivans.... all very happy.
botterbein wrote: The interesting thing about hybrids, is that people rarely do the math. A Tahoe LT 4wd, with the towing package, is tow rated at 8200 lbs. The 4wd Tahoe Hybrid is rated at 5900. Hybrid city MPG is 20, while non-hybrid is only 15, yes, that's true. However, the hybrid is stickered at $6000 more, and since everyone is looking for that hybrid, chances are, you'll get a better deal on the non-hybrid. Still, using MSRP as a guide, and $3.80 per gallon for fuel, you will have to drive that hybrid for 100,000 miles, before you see any savings. $3.80/20=$.19 per mile, $3.80/15=$.25 per mile, a difference of $.06 per mile. $6000/.$06= 100,000.
We did the math and are not buying new (were looking at a couple of '08s). They were priced about $4-7K lower than their NON hybrid matches (year/mileage). You are right, buying NEW would be dumb. But, after researching them more and reading reviews, I don't think we are interested in them anymore.
You would also be that much closer to needing to replace batteries in the hybrid if you purchase used.
This seems to be a very good thing to have. I would love to have this one and make things work out for the long run. If you can click here and see all the options that you can have, then that would have been a good and great things would happen. Thanks for this one. I hope all would be well in this one.
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