In Texas you pay for the GVWR you will need for the truck. You can register it for more than the factory GVWR. If you are pulled over & weighed with more weight than registered for you get a ticket. That includes pulling a trailer, and the trailers weight that's rides on the truck.
In Missouri, the thing that gripes me is I have to tag the truck for a pound value over the gross combined of the truck and trailer. But then I also have to tag the trailer. That's kind of like a "tax on a tax".
Here, the breakover points for light trucks are 6K lbs, 12K lbs, 18K lbs....and then something above that too....can't remember....I think it's like 22.5K
gmw photos wrote: In Missouri, the thing that gripes me is I have to tag the truck for a pound value over the gross combined of the truck and trailer. But then I also have to tag the trailer. That's kind of like a "tax on a tax".
Here, the breakover points for light trucks are 6K lbs, 12K lbs, 18K lbs....and then something above that too....can't remember....I think it's like 22.5K
We have to tag the Tt, but it's a generic trailer tag. $11.00
You're close. Base tag is 1.5times the tare wt of the truck, badges do not count. In the OP's case, truck is 5300 lbs, he would need to buy an 8K tag, He would be legal to 8K GVWR, His door sticker means squat.
If you have a rig that weighs like mine, 7300, as does another poster with a SW Dodge 2500, we both had to buy minimum 12K plates. His 9900 door sticker, and my 11400 door sticker mean squat! as do the axel wt ratings too.
Wt tags are sold in 2K increments, from 4k up to whatever you need. max axel wt is 500 lbs per inch width of tire, no matter if P or LT or truck rated. So a typical pickup with 10" tires, conceivably be good to 20K gvwr. Not that I would recommend such a thing. A dually gets 600 lbs per inch width of tire, to 20K per axel. My dually gets 20K on the rear, even tho the tire width allows ~22K lbs, front I get 11500 due to the 245 tires. So a total of 31K for a dually 35 series truck, again, not that I am going to recommend this.
Commercial and private truck wt tags are sold the same way, same cost. If pulled over with a paid for tag less than what you weigh, you could be in for an overload ticket. If I am pulled over in the C2500 that weighs 4800 empty, at the door sticker of 8600, my paid for tag is 8K, I am overwt by 600 lbs. MOre than likely what would happen, as it has in the past with me, when I was slightly over my paid for license, I was given a 10day go up the reg fee notice to the next higher GVWR. AS LONG as I was not over the above stated tire/max axle capacities from the get go.
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In Oklahoma we have no weighted tags to purchase or a registered weight of any type for a private use truck.
However Oklahoma does have a requirement for trucks in commercial service (all sizes) to be registered at a GVW for a gross weight or for a gross combined weight.
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Kennedycamper wrote: In Texas you pay for the GVWR you will need for the truck. You can register it for more than the factory GVWR. If you are pulled over & weighed with more weight than registered for you get a ticket. That includes pulling a trailer, and the trailers weight that's rides on the truck.
Up to a certain point only, my truck is registered and titled only as "a truck greater than 1 ton", my trailer tag however is based on the GVWR of that trailer. As you can see from my signature photo my truck is way greater than 1 ton, in fact with only full fuel & me on board it is very close to 11 tons.
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One thing you need to remember about how OUR weight laws work. for that mater how ALL 50 states weight laws work. "TRUE" weight laws protect the road/bridge structures, IE damage from rigs over 20K per axel, 500 or 600 lbs per inch width of tire, 34K per tandem etc. From an engineer standpoint, or some other factor, the safety of the road, keeping bridges from collasping etc. That is what the "weight" laws protect.
The other laws that will get you off the road, are the fmvss or equal laws. with out quoting one direct, as an example, if you load you F150 to say 19K lbs gvw, 9500 per axel with at least a 10" tire, be them tires a P, LT or truck rated tire, the LEO looks at a chart that says something to the effect of a 15K-20K rigs, you might be asked to accelerate to 10 or 20 mph on the road, then stop with in say 150'. If you stop with in 150', you're legal, If it is an inch over 150', you're parked on the side of the road with a "failed" brake system. A rig from 10-15K might have to stop in say 140', under 10K 130'. Yeah these laws refer to wts, so some think they are "weight laws" but they are not "true" wt laws!
These FMVSS laws are the ones that will get true "unsafe" rigs off the hwy, not wt laws. In fact, in the Federal bridge law, it states an over wt rig per say, can not be kept from continuing in some cases. Keeping commerce going is the goal, collecting the appropriate tax/money for the damage you are doing to the road beds so when repairs are needed, there is money to replace locally, 520, the deck on I 5 etc.
This is how our state works, this is also how the other 49 states are supposed to work too! If a state limits you axel wt to something less, then federal funds for roads could be with held, OUR RCW's state, that one gets the max per this law, such that fed road funds will not be with held. with that as my example above shows, a dangerous rig WILL be gotten off the road! more than likely, not due to a wt law!
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