One night around a desert campfire, our Pit, on a leash laying beside my wife when our Son's Australian Shepard attacked our dog from under the trailer. I think the Aussie bit off a little more than he could chew and we had a heck of a time separating them. We could figure no apparent reason except it was a territorial thing.
I'm totally convinced that dogs can talk to each other - and sometimes they're saying stuff that isn't "nice". I've personally seen where the one saying things that aren't nice, are teeny little dogs. Once had a loose Yorkie who was determined to have a piece of my ACD - it's only because he doesn't regard little fluffballs as "dogs" that he ignored the taunts, because that bada$$ Yorkie would have been gone in one bite....LOL!
I'd *hope* that the policeman/pitbull owner didn't take a dog-aggressive animal camping - and that this was a case of "accidentally loose dog walks into another space and is confronted by territorial pet" - the territorial pet not realizing the size/strength difference between itself and the dog it was attacking??
bigdogger wrote: You know fully well statistics show that overwelmingly serious injury and fatal animal attacks can be attributed to a very small number of breeds. Pit Bulls by far, lead the way, followed by Rottwielers, german shepherds, chows, and dobermans.
What do the stats look like after adjusting for the percentage of the total dog population of that breed where the attacked occurred? In some ares pit bulls make up a very large percentage of the total dog population. Clearly the more prevelent the breed of dog in an area the more likley it will be involved in an attack. The stats you quote do not take that into account.
The human analogy of this discussion would be the correlation between race and crime. While the stats can show a correlation between race and crime there are many underlying factors which are not collected with the data that are likely contributing to the correlation (percentage of population, nurture, etc). Remember correlation does not prove cause and effect.
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So are all of you who want to ban vicious breeds out to get Springer spaniels due to the potential of Springer rage? I've got two of them who are the sweetest babies you'd ever meet but because the "potential" is there should the whole breed be banned? When ANY breed is overbred, bred for the wrong reason, or is bred BY STUPID PEOPLE there can be an issue. It's stupid PEOPLE, not breeds, that are the problem.
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Are you selling something? I'm a little confused about the agenda here. You don't post here, you just showed up to link something controversial/upsetting, that contains NO useful information, on another board.
And you used wording that is let's just say, not consistent with someone who is upset, but sounds more like you're talking about a funny video.
Who are you advertising for?
I am not "selling" anything or advertising? Maybe I should make my agenda clear so there is no confusion;
My friends are heartbroken over this incident, I have know these people for about 35 years and just wanted to get their story out there. This is a real problem and there needs to be tougher legislation regarding aggressive bread dogs and irresponsible owners.
My friends are trying to get support for such legislation.
Also being a pet owner, I want more RVers to know that we need to really be aware of our surroundings, the wife was holding the attacked dog just 5 minutes before the incident, what would have happened to her if the attach happened then? As it was my friends hand is all chewed up getting the PB off his dog.
This topic seems never ending, kind of like tires, Gas vs Diesel...
It is so full of emotion and entrenched positions that debate is pretty useless.
If the aim is to eliminate dog bite, then breed restrictions are poor solutions, even though it might make people feel safer. Often times these situations develop because people are uneducated, unaware or unwilling to see real canine behavior and potential problems.
I can't tell you the number of times I've heard "He/She won't bite," Anyone who knows anything about animals knows there are situations where ANY animal will protect itself.
Could breed restrictions actually create more risk?? All the pits are gone, who would think that nice Golden Retrieve would bite??? Be realistic, DOGS CAN BITE.
Education is the answer, starting with kids at a very young age.
Dealing with lots of breeds on a daily basis, I'd rather see a Pit than a MinPin or Chi (sorry those of you who love those breeds, I recognize there are great individuals in every breed and I've seen plenty of examples of those).
When pits are bad, they are tough to deal with.
I feel for anyone who has suffered a bite, lost a dog in a bite or just been scared by a situation.
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Are you selling something? I'm a little confused about the agenda here. You don't post here, you just showed up to link something controversial/upsetting, that contains NO useful information, on another board.
And you used wording that is let's just say, not consistent with someone who is upset, but sounds more like you're talking about a funny video.
Who are you advertising for?
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