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Posted: 05/17/12 09:29pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Today, 5/17, the fed. Dept. of Justice extended the deadline from 5/21/12 to 1/31/13 for all public pools with an average depth less than 48" to provide either a sloped entry or a permanently mounted lift.
Parks everywhere are striving to meet this mandate, within the DOJ 'readily achievable' clause.

What do you think?

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Posted: 05/17/12 09:35pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

With an avg depth of less than 48"? So if on the avg the pool is deeper than that they don't have to be ADA?


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Posted: 05/17/12 09:41pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

SDcampowneroperator wrote:

Today, 5/17, the fed. Dept. of Justice extended the deadline from 5/21/12 to 1/31/13 for all public pools with an average depth less than 48" to provide either a sloped entry or a permanently mounted lift.
Parks everywhere are striving to meet this mandate, within the DOJ 'readily achievable' clause.

What do you think?


I think it's another regulation that will raise cg prices and the equipment rarely monitored. The ADA doesn't seem to do followup, at least not in many fast food restaurants where the alleged handicapped stalls are still too narrow to accommodate a wheelchair. My wife was wc bound for awhile during her chemo treatments. She had the worst time of it trying to use the lavvy at McDonalds.


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Posted: 05/17/12 10:05pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Correct. Deeper pools and no other existing facility in the camp is required to meet ADA., even in the event of other remodel projects.
We in the outdoor hospitality industry recognize it is to our advantage to make our facilities as useful as possible. It takes time and a clientele with the need.

Our industry leaders did recognize the reason, as did AG Eric Holder.

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I would think that a lift would be an expensive, unreliable piece of equipment that would hardly ever be used. How much does it cost to modify the pools for walk-in entry? I see that in many public pools and it is a feature that even able-bodied people enjoy.

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This will just lead to pools being closed. Something we already see with the high insurance costs on pools. I doubt many CG operators can afford $20000 or more for a pool lift that will be used a few times a year. And as someone trained as an environmental engineer I'd have to say that the danger of contaminating the pool by dropping wheel chairs in it are high.

People just need to accept that not everyone can do everything. My days of thinking about climbing El Capitan are behind me for example.


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Posted: 05/18/12 08:06am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

agesilaus wrote:

This will just lead to pools being closed. Something we already see with the high insurance costs on pools. I doubt many CG operators can afford $20000 or more for a pool lift that will be used a few times a year. And as someone trained as an environmental engineer I'd have to say that the danger of contaminating the pool by dropping wheel chairs in it are high.

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People just need to accept that not everyone can do everything. My days of thinking about climbing El Capitan are behind me for example.
Shhh, next thing you know Big Brother will require a lift for El Capitan!

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It's my understanding that the new ADA requirement is for a permanently mounted lift. Pool operators already comply with a slope or a portable lift. There are many stories from hotel operators that there as NEVER be a single request to use the portable lift. One more government over reach that will close recreational access to everyone!


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I heard they are required to put in a fixed unit even if they already have a portable one. Which in some cases would cause a tripping hazard.

It's just another attorney income generator. They hire disabled to complain about non-ADA compliant businesses.


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In a similar stupid action, the feds licensed commercial game ranches to raised endangered species like the various African antelopes. The ranches of course sold sold hunting permits to customers. But this resulted in a large increase in the number of these critters.

It was a successful program, cost the feds next to nothing and the private ranches made a living off the hunts. However seeing that it was working well the feds slapped the ranches with onerous new licensing fees and piles of paperwork with the result that the ranches are getting out of the business and getting rid of the critters.

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