I notice that the Nitto Dura Grapplers aren't on your list.
If I were in the market for tires to fit my stock rims, the Dura Grapplers would be my 1st choice... They're quiet, long wearing, great wet & dry traction, and M&S rated.
Cheers
-Mark
I've been running the Toyo M55 on my dually for the last year. With the window closed, you can't hear the tire noise over the noise of the diesel. With the window open, the creaks and other noises from the TC and tie downs are more obvious vs. the tire noise.
Before buying the M55 I had also considered the Cooper Discoverer S/T Maxx due to their emphasis on the 3 ply casing and the new chip and cut resistant thread compound, as they were ~ 2/3 the cost of the M55. But the decision was made for me while stretching the lifetime of my existing tires, when a rock on a forest service road cut the old tire and a Les Schwab which only had the M55 was the closest tire place.
msiminoff wrote: I notice that the Nitto Dura Grapplers aren't on your list.
If I were in the market for tires to fit my stock rims, the Dura Grapplers would be my 1st choice... They're quiet, long wearing, great wet & dry traction, and M&S rated.
Cheers
-Mark
Thanks. There's only so many brands that I can consider without becoming completely overwhelmed. I'm sure a lot of people have had very good experience with a lot of tires, but I've got to keep my options a bit manageable. The bit of reading I did on the Nittos seemed to indicate it's a predominantly highway tire, not suited to travels off the beaten path.
bb_94401 wrote: I've been running the Toyo M55 on my dually for the last year. With the window closed, you can't hear the tire noise over the noise of the diesel. With the window open, the creaks and other noises from the TC and tie downs are more obvious vs. the tire noise.
Before buying the M55 I had also considered the Cooper Discoverer S/T Maxx due to their emphasis on the 3 ply casing and the new chip and cut resistant thread compound, as they were ~ 2/3 the cost of the M55. But the decision was made for me while stretching the lifetime of my existing tires, when a rock on a forest service road cut the old tire and a Les Schwab which only had the M55 was the closest tire place.
Thanks for the feedback on noise.
I hadn't looked at the S/T Maxx. Sounds like they are a relatively new offering from Cooper, as is the AT3. And looks like it's aimed more at the off-road crowd who also want a tire that can handle well on highways to get to the trail head. Anyway, it sounds good, maybe less highway noise than M55, would likely be good on gravel roads, but I'm wondering if it's too aggressive a tire for my needs... I'll check the local price, compared to the M55.
Better handling and ride quality both laden and unladen. I have our truck dialed in now to the point where I am very happy with the handling; tires with good sidewall strength and airbags just where they need to be. Very pleased with how the rig handles.
Overall, the truck handles so much better with the 265's it really makes me wonder why they don't put them on as OEM.
Seems kind of silly...
Notes;
* I do air down the tires if I will not have a heavy load for a while. Usualy down to 50 psi front and back, I did this with the smaller tires also.
* I do need to compensate by 2-3 mph according to the GPS versus speedo...to be honest I never checked before, but I suspect this is due to larger dia tires.
* We did have the air bags with the 245's also.
* We are running BFG Commercial TA Traction (these would be similar to Firestone Transforce...)a commercial duty M & S tire. I have not had them long enough to comment on treadwear yet...~ 10k miles.
B
billtex wrote: Better handling and ride quality both laden and unladen. I have our truck dialed in now to the point where I am very happy with the handling; tires with good sidewall strength and airbags just where they need to be. Very pleased with how the rig handles.
Overall, the truck handles so much better with the 265's it really makes me wonder why they don't put them on as OEM.
Seems kind of silly...
Notes;
* I do air down the tires if I will not have a heavy load for a while. Usualy down to 50 psi front and back, I did this with the smaller tires also.
* I do need to compensate by 2-3 mph according to the GPS versus speedo...to be honest I never checked before, but I suspect this is due to larger dia tires.
* We did have the air bags with the 245's also.
* We are running BFG Commercial TA Traction (these would be similar to Firestone Transforce...)a commercial duty M & S tire. I have not had them long enough to comment on treadwear yet...~ 10k miles.
B
Thanks Bill, that's very useful, and both supports and complements other things I've heard about going up to that size. Engineers would advise caution because stock wheel size is 6.5" and 265 requires minimum 7", but tire shops I called said .5" is not a big deal.
I don't have air bags on my truck but the Alaskan is a low-riding slide-in when travelling so is not as prone to cross-wind and high center of gravity, and is not as heavy as some of the bigger campers.
The tire costs I'm getting locally are around: - please mind that I'm in Canada, and that in spite of NAFTA and parity dollars, vehicle parts and accessories are notoriously more expensive up here
stock 245-75-16:
- Toyo M55 $280 each, $1300 for 4 installed with taxes etc. (can keep one of my current tires as spare)
- Cooper AT3 $250 each, around $1160 for 4 installed
- Uniroyal Transforce AT $240 each, around $1100 for 4 installed
265-75-16:
- Toyo M55 $310 each, around $1700 for 5 installed - I would need to buy a spare in that size
- Cooper AT3 $255 each, $1500 for 5 installed
- Toyo Open Country HT TD $310 each, $1700 for 5 installed
So bottom line: Staying with the stock size would cost me around $400 less for the set of 4 (however that would leave me with unmatched and 6-7 year old spare). M55's only about $200 more for a set than comparative options.
You might consider the Dueler A/T Revo 2 by Bridgestone. I put them on 3k ago and I'm liking them a lot. I read lots of reviews about them and there was a lot of positive comments about the tire. I know they handle well and my mileage has gone up about a mile per gallon when hauling the camper and towing the Jeep. I also like the tread design, it's good in wet road conditions. Good luck with what ever you get.
Steve
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