Myself and Dw are thinking baout a new TT. The TT is a Montana Mountaineer. But I am concerned about the weighth of the TT comapred to the tow rating of my TV.
the dry weight acording to the owner is 11,000lbs. I beleive my TV has a tow rating of 13,000.
Is that tow rating with a 5th wheel hitch or does it also cover a properly installed conventional hitch? The TT also comes with a Hensley Arrow hitch. Does this make a difference?
My curent TT is a 27ft Hornet witha dry weight of 6500lbs and I use a Reese Dual cam. How does the Hensley compare to the dual cam?
Will my '03 CTD handle a trailer this large? We do have some steep hills but they are not long hills. There are also a lot of narrow windy roads. Obviously a TT that's 10ft longer will require slightly altering my driving from the 27ft I tow now.
The truck in my signature is rated at 13,700 lbs with 3.73 gearing - if your truck is lighter (no 4WD, standard cab, etc) or you have 4.10 gears then yours will be higher. It will tow it fine but you won't be going too fast over hills.
Scott, Grace and Wesly
2003 Dodge 3500 4x4, 6 speed Cummins (lightly bombed),
2004 Forest River 25RKS many, many mods.
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Is that tow rating with a 5th wheel hitch or does it also cover a properly installed conventional hitch? The TT also comes with a Hensley Arrow hitch. Does this make a difference?
The Hensely hitch does not make a difference in any tow rating, but it does makes a positive difference in the towing experience.
'05 Dodge Cummins 4x4 dually 3500 white quadcab auto long bed.
'09 299bhs Tango.
trailerbikecamper wrote: Myself and Dw are thinking baout a new TT. The TT is a Montana Mountaineer. But I am concerned about the weighth of the TT comapred to the tow rating of my TV.
the dry weight acording to the owner is 11,000lbs. I beleive my TV has a tow rating of 13,000.
Is that tow rating with a 5th wheel hitch or does it also cover a properly installed conventional hitch? The TT also comes with a Hensley Arrow hitch. Does this make a difference?
My curent TT is a 27ft Hornet witha dry weight of 6500lbs and I use a Reese Dual cam. How does the Hensley compare to the dual cam?
Will my '03 CTD handle a trailer this large? We do have some steep hills but they are not long hills. There are also a lot of narrow windy roads. Obviously a TT that's 10ft longer will require slightly altering my driving from the 27ft I tow now.
Dry weight.......nobody tows a trailer 'dry'. Look at data plate on trailer and see what the GVWR is. That's the heaviest trailer should be.
Tow rating......different ratings based on whether it's a 'trailer' or a '5th wheel'. Usually a higher tow rating for 5th wheel.
03 CTD.......which one. 2500/3500, Quad Cab, Shortbed/Longbed, Std./Auto tranny, 4X2/4X4......3:73/4:10 etc.
Don't know....have dealer run VIN to find out.
2007 RAM 3500 QC LB SRW 5.9L CTD 48re 4:10 4K in bed 'quiet genny'
2007 HitchHiker II 32.5 UKTG 2000W Xantex Inverter
Hit the Road Free & Clear April '07
13,000lbs is almost certainly the 5th wheel tow rating from the factory.
That said, if you install a properly large receiver like a Reese Titan, there is technically no reason you cannot tow 13,000lbs on the bumper, if not more in my opinion.
1. Your truck should easily handle the tongue weight, unless you've added on some VERY heavy accessories.
2. The Hensley will take care of keeping the front tires firmly in contact with the ground.
3. Trailer brakes stop the trailer. Nothing short of a D6 Caterpillar bulldozer is going to have the stopping power to bring truck and to a stop under emergency conditions if the trailer brakes fail. Even a mighty DRW or even an MDT won't be enough.
The limiting factor is, how much patience do you have? The trailer's going to be over 13,000lbs by the time you load it to go camping. 13,000lbs is a LOT of weight even for an '03 Cummins, so you have to take that into account. Will you savagely beat your wife when you get to a rest stop out of frustration at how slow you are going?
2002 Chevy 3500 DRW 8.1L/Allison
2000 Palomino B1500
...and the reason why I need a DRW to haul a Palomino:
2004 United 7x14 tandem axle enclosed toy trailer
2011 PJ 8x20 7-ton deckover equipment trailer
Quote: BTW, the tow rating of your receiver is 12K lbs.
Correct if stock. If the OP goes with this trailer, the receiver will need to be upgraded to at least 13,000 pounds and a little more is better to be sure it can accommodate the tongue weight. If the trailer weighs 12,000 pounds it can have a tongue weight of 1500- 1600 pounds. (12,000 pounds with about 13 percent is on the tongue equals around 1600 pounds).
trailerbikecamper wrote: Myself and Dw are thinking baout a new TT. The TT is a Montana Mountaineer. But I am concerned about the weighth of the TT comapred to the tow rating of my TV.
the dry weight acording to the owner is 11,000lbs. I beleive my TV has a tow rating of 13,000.
Is that tow rating with a 5th wheel hitch or does it also cover a properly installed conventional hitch? The TT also comes with a Hensley Arrow hitch. Does this make a difference?
My curent TT is a 27ft Hornet witha dry weight of 6500lbs and I use a Reese Dual cam. How does the Hensley compare to the dual cam?
Will my '03 CTD handle a trailer this large? We do have some steep hills but they are not long hills. There are also a lot of narrow windy roads. Obviously a TT that's 10ft longer will require slightly altering my driving from the 27ft I tow now.
Dry weight.......nobody tows a trailer 'dry'. Look at data plate on trailer and see what the GVWR is. That's the heaviest trailer should be.
Tow rating......different ratings based on whether it's a 'trailer' or a '5th wheel'. Usually a higher tow rating for 5th wheel.
03 CTD.......which one. 2500/3500, Quad Cab, Shortbed/Longbed, Std./Auto tranny, 4X2/4X4......3:73/4:10 etc.
Don't know....have dealer run VIN to find out.
The TV is a 2500 CTD Quad-cab, short box, 4X4, with 3.73 rear end, and auto tranny. I can't look at the trailer since it will take a couple of days to get there. I am in eastern Newfoundland, the TT is in Nova Scotia. It iis a minimum of a 17hr ferry ride in each direction.
To clarify my original question: the tow rating for my truck is 13,000lbs. Is this for a 5th wheel set up, or can I have proper hitch put in and tow the same amount with a "bumper" hitch?
Your last sentence is correct. If the hitch is not rated for the wt of the trailer, get a different hitch, and you will have the correct rating per say.
I personally would not have an issue towing the trailer you are buying with your truck, as long as I was under the axel wt ratings. if above, then issues occur, or if you are very close to the RA limit, then in some driving conditions, you will bottom out the RA, which is not fun.
Marty
05 Chev CC D/A LS Dooley
92 Navistar dump truck, 7.3L 7 sp, 4.33 gears with a Detroit no spin
00 Chev C2500, V5700, 4L80E, 4.10, base truck, no options!
92 Red-e-haul 12K equipment trailer
3 Single axle utility trailers
What is a CTD?
I think it all depends on your ratings: truck tow rating, payload, hitch rating, axle ratings, etc. What are these numbers? And what will the final trailer and tongue weights be?
Nights camped 2011: 13 (4 in the old popup)
Nights camped 2012: 36
Nights camped 2013: 2
2012 F-150 XLT screw 4x4 HD max tow
2012 Jayco X19H
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