pressure_welder wrote: No question when pulling large 5vers, get the dually. The added stability when towing more than pays for itself. Id rathr have too much truck and be safe with my family and other people on the road rather than struggling to pull my rig around with a SRW truck that is just or almost capable. Plus i like relaxing and enjoying my dirve while pulling rather than white knuckling.
Hear, hear!
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2012 Montana 3402 (Regretfully purchased from Camping World. Buyer beware!)
2011 Chevy 3500
2007 Black Lab/Pitt Bull mix named Harley
DFC723 wrote: I currently have 2000 F350 Crew Cab Dually diesel and I am thinking about getting a new 2012 F250 Crew Cab diesel but I am worried that I will not be happy with it while towing. I am not a full time RV'er. We go on 5 or 6 trips a year. I would add the air ride adjustable bags to the rear, but I am still worried that I might not be happy. Hitch weight is 1,947lbs, unloaded camper weight is 12,176lbs, axel camper is 10,229 and GVWR of the camper is 15,200 lbs. I know al lot of people will think this too much weight for a SRW, and I respect that, but I would like to hear from people that are are using SRW vehicles to tow this weight or close to this weight. I have done my research and the F250 is rated to handle this weight, but I just want to be sure I won't regret the purchase. Thanks for the help
I don't believe you'll have any regrets with the 250 Series if you have it set up right. Bags and E rated(3415#'s each)tires should do it.
I believe your pin weight is a little low. At 15,200 you'll be at 3000#'s + on the pin. Most don't load their trailers to GVWR.
As a fulltimer, ours is at gross and I've never seen "white knuckles" during our trips.
It's up to how comfortable you are driving with weight behind you and the confidence in your tow vehicle.
..It's always funny that the ones that say go ahead and tow a 15,000# GVW with a 250 or 2500 are usually some that are towing over their specs also....I also like when someone say's they're towing with an F250 or 2500 SRW truck...hey, all 3/4 ton trucks are SRW trucks as far as I know...only 3500's or 350s and up come with DRW, (yeah, I know a 1 ton SRW truck exist). And I would recommend at the very least to tow the 5er the OP want's with an F350 or 3500 SRW truck instead of pushing the limits of the 250/2500 truck and it's components. Airbags only level the load and nothing more....E rated tires should be OEM on 3/4 trucks and up that have tow packages on them.
The OP's 5er, "IF" loaded close to it's limit could have a pinweight of 3,000#....I'd recommend staying within the trucks limits and going with, at the least, a 1 ton SRW truck....as stated earlier, 1500# more on the 350 SRW over the 250 isn't really "close"....
Most in here recommending more truck than a 250 or 2500 for OPs 5er are people who have towed over their trucks limits and learned the hard way....OP asked for advice and has been given the advice...it's his money, his towing experience, his safety....he can take or leave the advice he asked for and got....
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FWIW- I've got 2 things-
1) If you want to get the new truck get the 350 not a 250.
2) Unless there's something wrong with your truck, with a 7.3, I'd keep that truck you've got, and use the money you'd save into upgrading the truck.
I just sold a truck a lot like yours to get a used F450 that was "rated" for the weight I'm towing. I won't say that it was the WORST decision I've ever made, but I've had the truck for 5 months and I've already had to have more than 10K in repairs and maintence. Thankfully the insurance company took care of 8K of it.
If I had to do it again, I'd have kept the 2000, and made upgrades to it. The creature comforts in my 08 are nice, as well as the turning radius, but the reliability of the 7.3 far outweigh the benefits of the F450.
Now, If I could afford to put a 7.3 in my 08 F450, I'd think I was just about the king of the world!
DFC723 wrote: Sorry but you are looking at the wrong wheel base. I HAVE done my research. I appreciate your in put but if you are just here to bash me please keep your opinions to yourself. I want to hear from people using SRW's to tow with. I will say it again, I have dually and I know what they will do. I am not planning on using the F250 with the stock set up.
Bashing you? Jeez, I'm trying to help you. I may have selected the wrong wheelbase, since you didn't specify, but you are looking at the wrong engine, which is a 600# penalty.
I guess you are one who needs to learn the hard way. So good luck.
Some have to learn the hard way, just like I did...and I didn't listen the first time either, and it cost me much more later down the road..
OP states that they're not planning on using the F250 with stock set up....What are you going to do with the new 250 to where it'll tow like an F350? Just curious...as I stated above, airbags only do "squat"...and that's it...level the load.....going to change the rear end on a brand new truck? A tuner won't help it "tow" anymore weight....again, just curious....
2011 Palomino Maverick 1000SLLB on a 2004 Dodge Quadcab CTD Ram3500 SRW long bed equipped with Timbren springs, Stable Load bump stops, Rickson 19.5" wheels/"G" range tires and a Helwig "Big Wig" rear anti sway bar.
My 2500 is a great solid truck that could tow most any thing out there.
I stepped up and bought my Dually because I know it would be un safe to tow my Mobile Suites with the 2500 even if I put air bags and went to 19.5 tires and wheels.
I sure see plenty of people doing it. Does not mean it is right.
For example heavy rv 250/2500 truck 55 mph going down a 6 percent grade coming into a corner a big gust of wind hits you, that is when the Dually comes into play.
I stepped up, I would never go backwards.
Overloading a tow vehicle is selfish and irresponsible.
2011 Ram Laramie Longhorn 3500 Dually Long Bed, Cummins 350/800 HO, Towin Machine
B&W Companion Hitch, Maghytec Trans and Rear Dif Covers, AMZ/OIL Top To Bottom
2007 1/2 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 27,000# Combined
WeII I will call BS, actually the GVRW weight rating is anywhere from 9900lbs to 11500lbs which makes the payload anywhere from 3030lbs to 4940lbs depending on the set up for SRW 350. Just for the record, I have not made up my mind. I was just trying to understand how some of these 5er's were going down the road with the smaller tow vehicles. Yes, I would like to get away from a dually, but I will not sacrifice safety in order to do so.
If I have learned anything from coming here it has been not to ask a question here. A lot of the people have been very helpful and honest with their experience or opinion, but unfortunately it is not worth putting up with the other stuff to get that information. It is real easy to say your trying to help someone while pointing out errors in their statements. If you were really trying to help you would be asking questions about the information they need to make an intelligent recommendation.
Thanks to those that tried to help. I have to go and buy a truck, or not.
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