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Keith M

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I think the $400 for batteries and $300 for a low cost generator and LED TV makes more sense than the $1000 for a generator when you already have one. A bulk charge on the batteries which could be done while watching TV and then 4-5 hours of watching TV on 4 golf cart batteries. Thats the way its done out in the desert by the old folks, except they also have solar panels and skip the generator.

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Start with the quier generator. Don't assume you can use the built in converter to recharge the batteries in 3 hours. That is usually not possible. Next year look at inverter/chargers. They have far higher charging rates, and (if the batteries allow it) can make a huge dent in an hour. If you want to charge FAST look at AGM's, they cost more, but charge 5 to 50 times faster then lead/acid batteries. My agm's are rated for C5 charging (c=amp hours) the three are about 200ah, so that is 1000 amps (rated max) charging. My inverter/charger is rated for 150 amps charging. That makes from 50% charge (don't go below 50% if you want your batteries to last a long time) to 90% in about 30 minutes.


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You might take a look at the Honda EU3000 generator which is really quiet. A bit heavy but if you leave it in the back of the truck its not a problem. You could probably run one a/c and take care of your electrical needs. That would be a reasonable option to the 2000 which cant power an air conditioner.

Everybody needs a space and something to do and it it includes TV, computer, books, etc. its reasonable to me. Dogs also need their space. I would certainly take a hard look at the Honda 3000 and listen to how quiet it is before making a choice on generators.

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jstme wrote:

...Life is often about compromise...Spending a week at a time camped by a lake, taking turns reading outside while the kids watch tv and pulling the kids behind the boat in a tube is not a bad week.


Not a bad week at all. Not at all.




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Why does the child "need" TV?

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Gau 8 wrote:

Why does the child "need" TV?


Answered earlier: I have (2) adult special needs children that will always live with us. Life is often about compromise; I enjoy backpacking in solitude, we have a 40' 5th wheel with a 40" tv and directv for the kids and I get to enjoy the outdoors,read, bbq outside, etc. OR, I could dig my heels in, declare that camping is for "getting away" and have miserable, unhappy kids that do not want to go camping. Spending a week at a time camped by a lake, taking turns reading outside while the kids watch tv and pulling the kids behind the boat in a tube is not a bad week.

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One advantage of the inverter units is that they can run at slower speed when the power demand is less than max. Non inverter (cheaper) units have to run at full rpm all the time to get the 60 Hz frequency. That makes them louder and use more fuel.


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I have a 19" LED tv and a BluRay player installed; both of them tegether draw less than 50 watts. I run them off a $30 inverter that plugs in to the cigarette lighter (170 watts Modified Sine Wave). Get a Kill-A-Watt (under $40 at Lowe's) and you can discover what the DirecTV receiver draws and size your inverter that way. Probably a 1000 watt inverter will do fine. Might need a Pure Sine Wave type. Then charge your batteries as needed.

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Keith M wrote:

You might take a look at the Honda EU3000 generator which is really quiet. A bit heavy but if you leave it in the back of the truck its not a problem. You could probably run one a/c and take care of your electrical needs. That would be a reasonable option to the 2000 which cant power an air conditioner.

Everybody needs a space and something to do and it it includes TV, computer, books, etc. its reasonable to me. Dogs also need their space. I would certainly take a hard look at the Honda 3000 and listen to how quiet it is before making a choice on generators.


For now, I think we are set. We started with a champion 5000W, it was not *too* loud, but it only ran 1 A/c. We have a large 40' 5th wheel with 2 a/c's....one air struggled when it got hot one trip. We now have a 9000W Champion (loud) that will run both a/c's. With both air's going and the doors closed, the "beast" is not a problem. I just bought a CPE 2000W from Costco (same db level as the Honda) for $489.00 When we need two air conditioners, We are set. For mild days of open windows and watching TV, the CPE is quiet, quiet, quiet. ALSO, the small unit is 20-25 dollars a day cheaper to run than "the beast". I would be hard pressed to find a quiet generator that will run both A/C's......that would not break the bank. I wonder how loud an Onan (sp?) is? Anyone have experience with one....should it be on my future wish list?

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Ken451 wrote:

One advantage of the inverter units is that they can run at slower speed when the power demand is less than max. Non inverter (cheaper) units have to run at full rpm all the time to get the 60 Hz frequency. That makes them louder and use more fuel.


Great point; this unit is an inverter unit that has an "econo" mode, for just a TV I expect that it will stay in "whisper mode". M.

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