If the dry weight / weight on the door says 5000 lbs and the Gvwr says 7000 lbs does that mean I can put 2000 lbs of stuff into the trailer? In other words as long as I don't exceed 7000 lbs total.
It means you can put stuff in up to the 7000# point. Not necessarily 2000# of stuff however. Your trailer may not weigh exactly 5000# dry, most don't. Those figures are for base models no option rigs usually.
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The 2000# that you get also includes your propane weight, battery weight, water weight (including waste water hauled), and if the A/C is optional, possibly the A/C weight. Many folks find that they have far less than they thought that they had.
Quote: The 2000# that you get also includes your propane weight, battery weight, water weight (including waste water hauled), and if the A/C is optional, possibly the A/C weight. Many folks find that they have far less than they thought that they had.
This is an excellent answer. The amount of stuff you can put into the trailer will be significantly less than 2000 pounds if the fresh water/gray and black tanks are nearly full. Water weighs about 8.3 pounds per gallon.
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Agree with above reply. When you read the find print in most RV literature "dry weight" almost always excludes the LP, battery, and any options. Best bet is to take the TT to a scale and weigh it.
Quote: The 2000# that you get also includes your propane weight, battery weight, water weight (including waste water hauled), and if the A/C is optional, possibly the A/C weight. Many folks find that they have far less than they thought that they had.
This is an excellent answer. The amount of stuff you can put into the trailer will be significantly less than 2000 pounds if the fresh water/gray and black tanks are nearly full. Water weighs about 8.3 pounds per gallon.
No! the door sticker includes all factory installed eqipment. as far as water goes no one I know hauls around full fresh, grey and blackwater! and a battery will weigh around 50#, full propane another 60#. I will always say to add 1000-1500 lbs to the dry weight (depending on how a person packs) to get the ready to travel weight!
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lincoln30 wrote: If the dry weight / weight on the door says 5000 lbs and the Gvwr says 7000 lbs does that mean I can put 2000 lbs of stuff into the trailer?---
sch911 wrote: Not necessarily 2000# of stuff however. Your trailer may not weigh exactly 5000# dry, most don't. Those figures are for base models no option rigs usually.
The weight stated on the federally-mandated sticker does include all factory-installed options. It also includes the estimated weight of propane and battery, even if those items are not factory-installed.
Fire Instructor wrote: The 2000# that you get also includes your propane weight, battery weight, water weight (including waste water hauled), and if the A/C is optional, possibly the A/C weight---
Propane, battery weight, and factory-installed A/C would be included in the sticker dry weight and need not be deducted from the 2000#.
Drbolasky wrote: When you read the find print in most RV literature "dry weight" almost always excludes the LP, battery, and any options.---
That's correct. However, the OP was referring to the dry weight on the door.
dodge guy wrote: No! the door sticker includes all factory installed eqipment. as far as water goes no one I know hauls around full fresh, grey and blackwater! and a battery will weigh around 50#, full propane another 60#.
Yes, the door sticker includes all factory-installed items. It also includes the estimated weight of propane and battery. If the original dealer installs items weighing more than 1.5% of GVWR or 100#, that weight should be stated on a revised sticker.
The weight information which must be provided by the trailer manufacturer is specified by NHTSA/FMVSS in 49 CFR 571.110.
For example, 571.110 specifies:
"---If the vehicle is a recreation vehicle trailer and is equipped with a propane supply, the weight of full propane tanks must be included in the vehicle’s unloaded vehicle weight."
(underline added for emphasis)
As regards items installed after initial the trailer leaves the factory, 571.110 specifies:
"S10. Weight added to vehicles between final vehicle certification and first retail sale of the vehicle.
S10.1 If weight exceeding the lesser of 1.5 percent of GVWR or 45.4 kg (100 pounds) is added to a vehicle between final vehicle certification and first retail sale of the vehicle, the vehicle capacity weight values on the placard required by S4.3 or S4.3.5 and the load carrying capacity weight values on the RV load carrying capacity labels (Figures 3 and 4) required by S9.3 must be corrected using one or a combination of the following methods: ---"
By the way, "CFR" stands for "Code of Federal Regulations".
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