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Posted: 08/07/12 03:35pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

lt1tyrell wrote:

Ok I bought car with 110,000kms (about 60,000 miles), and it had minor front end damage from a deer which I fixed. They sell these cars in canada with 160,000-170,000kms all the time. Anyways the car is in perfect mechanical condition and it needs nothing so the kms and idling hours shouldn't really matter.


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Ok thanks for all the advice guys!

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Ahhh... for the simpletons that think the Model year is enough...


Then why was your first question in this thread an inquiry about the age of the car???

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It will be fine!! IF YOU put a CTD in it a allison trans and a rear end out of a F350 dually. lol I think you will be fine. Wills250psd

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lt1tyrell wrote:

Ok I bought car with 110,000kms (about 60,000 miles), and it had minor front end damage from a deer which I fixed. They sell these cars in canada with 160,000-170,000kms all the time. Anyways the car is in perfect mechanical condition and it needs nothing so the kms and idling hours shouldn't really matter.



Applying the Police fleet rules of thumb:

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Ford Fleet has determined that one hour of idling is equal to the engine wear of driving 33 miles. Assume that 50% of the time is spent idling. In 200 hours, the odometer may show 2,000 miles, but we have to add the idling-equivalent hours, which in this case is 3,300 miles, i.e., 100 hours times 33 miles. The actual wear on the engine after 2,000 miles is really the wear after 5,300 miles, i.e., 2,000 odometer miles plus 3,300 miles idling.

Crull obtained the Hobbs hour meters from a local NAPA store. He originally mounted the meters in the dash, but not surprisingly, found some of the officers would tamper with or disconnect them. The meters are now mounted under the hood. These meters can withstand the underhood heat and moisture.

Crull finds the Ford CVPI goes between 8,000 and 10,000 hours before most major driveline failures begin to occur. The failure in this urban patrol setting is the engine and not the transmission.

Of course, these failures don’t happen in all CVPIs. And, by 10,000 hours, the cars really are worn out. Using the 50% estimate, i.e., 5,000 hours of idling or 165,000 miles is added to the 100,000 miles on the odometer to make 265,000 miles. That is worn out even for most taxis.



Equivalent to have over 100,000 miles on it if you assume it is like the above example.

But it should be OK.

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57 Panhead wrote:

NewsW wrote:


Ahhh... for the simpletons that think the Model year is enough...


Then why was your first question in this thread an inquiry about the age of the car???

Steve


Because we are not smart enough to understand the incredibly deep and pertinent true meaning behind those so seemingly simple words.


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NewsW wrote:

Old-Biscuit wrote:

NewsW wrote:

How old is the vehicle?


1st thing OP stated "05 crown Vic......."
so that would make it 7 to 8 yrs. old OR a 2005 model.




With 200,000 miles or 300,000miles?


Unless you are like everyone else here that seem to think mileage is irrelevant.

Most police interceptors I see are pretty thoroughly worn out by the time they are sold.

Now if you want some rocket science, which is way above being able to figure out from the model year what mileage is on it, police interceptors do a lot of hours idling.

The hours used sometimes can be pulled from the ECM.

The idling ages the vehicle much more than the mileage shows.


Ahhh... for the simpletons that think the Model year is enough...

For the simpletons...one would ask "what kind of mileage" vs "How old"....DUH!


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is it actually a retired police car? anyone can purchase an interceptor model crown vic, it is just an option package. if it is a retired police car it could be retired at a time when it was still worth something as not all municipalities run them untill dead. as long as it is a good car in good enough shape i would run with it. iirc the interceptor came with the 8.5 rear axle just like the 1/2 ton ford pickup. i would pull the rear axle shafts and replace the seals and check the axle/bearing. we used to replace a lot of shafts due to wear on the state police cars.


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I am looking for one myself. I will give the Impala to DW as her Buick is about worn out, and I need something with more legroom. I will also use it to tow a 17' boat, as it is near impossible to back up with a dually. The wide hips of the dually block the view of the boat and you are out of position before you can tell. DNR in MD and VA have used CV's for years to tow their smaller patrol boats. Besides, it will get the DA's in the left lane going below the limit out of the way when I come up behind them. I always love how the slower drivers are so worried about a cop.


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retired-tech wrote:

is it actually a retired police car? anyone can purchase an interceptor model crown vic, it is just an option package. if it is a retired police car it could be retired at a time when it was still worth something as not all municipalities run them untill dead. as long as it is a good car in good enough shape i would run with it. iirc the interceptor came with the 8.5 rear axle just like the 1/2 ton ford pickup. i would pull the rear axle shafts and replace the seals and check the axle/bearing. we used to replace a lot of shafts due to wear on the state police cars.


It is actually an 8.8 rear axle but yes same as a 1/2 ton I believe, I just did the bearings and seals, cheap easy job. One side was leaking.

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