me i would start working vigorusly on the lemon law.
Have you asked the stealer to let you drive an identical truck to see how it rides - and then demand that your lemon be made to ride the same way or be replaced.
I read over the lemon papers I got with my ford and i foggily recall that in IL they get three chances to fix the problem then have to face eating the lemon.
Thanks for the responses so far.
My problem could very well have something to do with u-joints, hub, rotor, drive shaft, as mentioned. One of the problems is that the area I live in is 1/2 ton country. Any dealer lot I see may have 25 1500's,5 2500's and no 3500's. I cant even test drive one to compare the ride. The experience of the techs in the shops is the same. They are constantly comparing my 3500 to issues they have experience with 1/2 ton trucks. Not even comparable as far as drive line, suspension, etc. Not to mention that my 1 ton is a gasser and SRW. Most one tons sold around here are DRW.
I have suggested that they look at u joints, hubs, etc, but they all say that there are no TSB'S. Ugh.
Well,GM customer service is paying attention to me. They are going to do something. I just dont know what yet.
Steve Rinker
Rochester, NY
2013 Keystone Sydney 340FBH 5'er
2012 Silverado 3500HD, SRW,LTZ,4x4, Z71, Crew, 6.0 Gasser, 4:10 Gears, Standard bed
"These days, I have problems in areas that I used to not have areas", so life is good.
me i would start working vigorusly on the lemon law.
Have you asked the stealer to let you drive an identical truck to see how it rides - and then demand that your lemon be made to ride the same way or be replaced.
I read over the lemon papers I got with my ford and i foggily recall that in IL they get three chances to fix the problem then have to face eating the lemon.
good luck pard.
I mentioned lemon law with GM. They asked me to give them one more chance to make it right (this is chance #4). I told them ok, but no more taking apart the truck, especially by techs that arent familiar with HD.
I cant test drive one to compare ride because the odds of finding a 3500HD SRW in my neck of the woods is slim to none. I ordered mine. Lots of 3/4 tons, but really need to drive a 1 ton crew with same set up to compare.
me i would start working vigorusly on the lemon law.
Have you asked the stealer to let you drive an identical truck to see how it rides - and then demand that your lemon be made to ride the same way or be replaced.
I read over the lemon papers I got with my ford and i foggily recall that in IL they get three chances to fix the problem then have to face eating the lemon.
good luck pard.
I mentioned lemon law with GM. They asked me to give them one more chance to make it right (this is chance #4). I told them ok, but no more taking apart the truck, especially by techs that arent familiar with HD.
I cant test drive one to compare ride because the odds of finding a 3500HD SRW in my neck of the woods is slim to none. I ordered mine. Lots of 3/4 tons, but really need to drive a 1 ton crew with same set up to compare.
American Axle had a lot of problems with u-joints during that era. I had an 11 that both front axle knuckle joint siezed up. I drove it until the showed major symptoms.Then the replaced them. I also had the same problems on the drive shaft, frozen joins without any sign of corrision. All of the problems happened a low vehicle mileage.
MM49
There is a gm campaign for this issue and they replace the rear cab mounts.
Elkhorn98
2010 GMC Sierra 2500HD 4x4 Duramax/Allison w/45 gal Transfer Flow Tank
RBW X16 Slider, Yamaha EF 2400iS
2007 Springdale 245 5th Wheel - E-Z Flex HD Suspension & Mobile Outfitters Shock Kit Upgrades
with Firestone Transforce Ht Lt 2357515 C tires
My gut reaction - you might have a slightly warped frame, which will dis-align every wheel and bearing component with each other. IF the frame is not true lined between each wheel, each bearing, each axle, each drum casing, and/or the transfer case and tranny with the drive hub, any one of those can vibrate, and probably will as soon as the revolutions hit a peak - changing one or all of those will not fix it, if it's warped, even slightly, although might be a lot of frames warped a bit but within specs, you might have one just barely out enough that it doesn't vibrate unless you hit the right conditions, and the syncronization between frame and the rotating components in the vehicle just hits the harmonics right (maybe even by accident) and vibrate each time, and only under those exact conditions - which you seem to have found.
That's probably something no one can fix throwing parts at it individually, because testing each section will give a false negative when you drive it. That is, replace a bearing, and it still vibrates, tech thinks its not that bearing, try another one, all down through each component and nothing changes. SO, you (or Dealer) expensively replaces every component and it still vibrates under those conditions - it's because the axles or bearings or hubs simply cannot align between themselves correctly when the frame that supports each connector is a little out of true between one wheel and another, and no way to straighten it on a frame ... even if the frame is out 2 degrees from true, when you add up four components acculmulating that 2 degrees, you'll get eight degrees acculative ... so each of those drive components are running a little tiny bit out of spec, but together they miss by a collective amount and become a larger missed spec.
so, you'll dance this one silly replacing one after another part with no change. But the part you install will always fit where it belongs and align with its mount - but it won't align with the opposing mount and so the two axles or bearings or shafts will not align side to side, or end to end. SO,in order to find the problem, you need to look at all the movable connector points of suspension and drive line at the same time and in line with each other on the opposing sides and ends. You can figure it out with chalk on the tires and a very straight black track, if you can take pretty exact dimensions on the tire patterns
SO, that's probaly the worst case scenario here, but something to consider. And is probably not worth this effort for anything less than a high preformance race car with an unlimited budget ... but then, why do it, the team would just buy another vehicle and race it ....
Hope you come back here and tell us how you resolve it.
But, stay with GM and make sure you get a absolutely perfect truck for the price thrucks sell for today. You got it coming for that kinda money - hang in there.
I had a 2011 gmc 3500 that shuddered with a load on take off.Service manger said i was taking off to fast.DUH After a year with fred from india was told no fix.They replaced all drive line ujoints carrier bearing,Did not help.!4000 miles on it. Now i own a ford 450. Was a gm owner for ever.They dont care about there customers any more.So good luck.
gmc6000 wrote: Widespread problem? I don't think so. In fact I am on the diesel forum quite often, and this is the first I have heard of this issue. Of course I go on Diesel Place.
I bought 2011 GMC Denali HD in November 2010, and it is smooth as silk.
Please don't chastise me. I am glad you don't have this problem. It is tough to drop $50k and have dealers tell you there is aproblem and they can't fix it. There are numerous owners experiencing this. Google it. You will read plenty about it. I never said it affects every vehicle. I am just looking to see if anyone here is experiencing this problem. The GM owners forum also has a large thread going. I am here to express my frustration.
Thanks
Steve
I was not trying to chastise you at all, and I apologize if I came across that way. My point I was trying to make, is this is surely not a widespread problem as you made it sound. In fact it is very rare.
I wish I could be of some help, but as I said, mine is super smooth. Of course you could always sell it and buy a Ford, then you will know what problems are
bwanted wrote: I had a 2011 gmc 3500 that shuddered with a load on take off.Service manger said i was taking off to fast.DUH After a year with fred from india was told no fix.They replaced all drive line ujoints carrier bearing,Did not help.!4000 miles on it. Now i own a ford 450. Was a gm owner for ever.They dont care about there customers any more.So good luck.
My last F 250 did the exact same thing, it even was compounded when making a turn when moving out from a stop. All kinds of expert advice. I finally solved that one myself. It was drive shaft/train alignment. When the truck was squated down is when it occured. Air bags fixed that one.
This doesn't change my mind on the OP. KEEP AFTER THAT LEMON LAW
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