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Posted: 08/20/12 07:17pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I know that a lot of people say to NEVER pull a 5er with a 1/2 ton TV. Is that really so ? I've been looking to buy a 2012 Keystone Springdale 247. Dry weight is 6435 lbs. Gross is 7925. Dry PW is 925 lbs. (so loaded PW should be 1185 lbs.)
I currently have a 2006 Dodge RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi, Quadcab, 3.92 gears, 6'4" bed. I plan to upgrade to a 3/4 ton in about a year. When I check the specs on my truck, I get all kinds of answers. Even the Dodge dealer using my vehicle VIN couldn't give me a positive answer. Near as I can tell the max allowable gross for the truck and trailer is 14,500. GVWR for the truck is 6750. Truck weighs 5325. I've seen max towable weights of 7400 lbs, 8450 lbs and the Dodge website says 9100 lbs (but doesn't even specify or ask for engine, gear or body style info).
There is just the wife and myself and we travel light. (no toys). I know that the truck has the power to handle the trailer but should being so close to the max specs of my TV be an issue ? I'm pretty sure that we will be under the max #s, but not by much.

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Been there - done that. Yes you could probably tow it. We did. There are lots of people out there doing it. Eventually we knew we weren't that comfortable with the weight and the safety of towing that close to the trucks limits. Also we realized we were settling for a rig that fit the truck not the rig that we really wanted. It is expensive to change rigs. If we had to do it again we would be patient and find the rig we wanted and then make sure we got the right truck to tow it. You are carrying precious cargo.

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I know that a lot of people say to NEVER pull a 5er with a 1/2 ton TV. Is that really so ? I've been looking to buy a 2012 Keystone Springdale 247. Dry weight is 6435 lbs. Gross is 7925. Dry PW is 925 lbs. (so loaded PW should be 1185 lbs.)
I currently have a 2006 Dodge RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi, Quadcab, 3.92 gears, 6'4" bed. I plan to upgrade to a 3/4 ton in about a year. When I check the specs on my truck, I get all kinds of answers. Even the Dodge dealer using my vehicle VIN couldn't give me a positive answer. Near as I can tell the max allowable gross for the truck and trailer is 14,500. GVWR for the truck is 6750. Truck weighs 5325. I've seen max towable weights of 7400 lbs, 8450 lbs and the Dodge website says 9100 lbs (but doesn't even specify or ask for engine, gear or body style info).
There is just the wife and myself and we travel light. (no toys). I know that the truck has the power to handle the trailer but should being so close to the max specs of my TV be an issue ? I'm pretty sure that we will be under the max #s, but not by much.

your doing the right homework and asking the right quesions If at all possible $$ wise I would suggest going to a 3500 or 1 ton Dodge. I think the difference when I bought my new Dodge was about $6K but IMHO, well worth the $$$.


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Posted: 08/20/12 08:10pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would do it, no worries. (see signature)

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Posted: 08/20/12 08:14pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Any 1500 truck can tow a 5th wheel trailer if the weights match up.

Looking at Dodge Body Builders website show a '06 SLT 1500 Hemi 3.92 gears QC short bed with 17" wheels has a 8750 lb tow rating and has a 1610 lb payload with a 14k GCWR. Their is a 1100 lb reduction for 20" wheels.
The truck will have no issues pulling the trailer.

However...... your gonna' be close on overloading the trucks GVWR and its small 3900 RAWR/tire capacities and a 6750 GVWR. I sure wouldn't carry weight over the tires capacities.

With a 1610 lb payload a 5th wheel hitch with rails may weigh 200 lbs for a manual sliding hitch. Now add another 100 lbs for gear and stuff over the rear axle and your payload is down to 1300 lbs for a wet pin weight.

Your gonna' be max loaded. And no you won't be a hazard to the world or everyone/yourself on the road. The truck simply just wears out a bit quicker.


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See my sig. You have a slightly newer and bigger motor than me (I don't know your HP and torque) and a higher rear end. You'll be hauling a lighter trailer than me and more importantly, your bed is one foot longer than mine (I have to use a sliding hitch). Some people will tell you no way a 1/2 ton can pull a FW, but these are not our grandfathers' 1/2 tons

You shouldn't go crazy and pull something that clearly should be pulled by a one ton truck. And, if the FW you're planning on buying has the newer eased front corners, you may not need a slider.


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That 17" vs 20" wheel issue is one of the questions for which I cannot get a definitive answer. Some debate on the issue is here:


http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php?topic=37784.0#top

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I'm OK with towing with a 5'er with 1/2 ton if weights are within all the towing parameters. However I think its is foolish to deliberately purchase a marginal combo. That is essentially maxed out from the start.
Many start out this way and are upgrading ASAP. I understand trying to make a combo work or testing a combo if you already own the truck. But to purchase a marginal truck or a rig that obviously puts your combo on the edge of its ratings is just silly. It will only cost more to upgrade down the road.
Get it right the first time its cheaper that way.
Buy the rig that you really want. Why buy a rig based on the specs. of a truck you plan to get rid of?
Think it all through too many are in constant upgrade mode. Bigger RV requires bigger TV. Once bigger TV is purchased sights are set on bigger RV...and so.
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Posted: 08/20/12 08:57pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You can pull it but bet you won't like it if you use it much at all and are the typical driver. Also go back and check your wieght ratings. From your post the truck GVWR is 6750 and wieghs in at 5300# leaving you 1450# of payload in theory. The pin wieght on that FW with GVWR of 7900# is going to be more like 1,600# not the 1185 you think. Make sure you check actual axle and tire ratings. I don't get too nerveous about being over GVWR for the truck but dang sure ain't going to exceed axle or tire ratings.

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Posted: 08/20/12 09:01pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

djgarcia wrote:

If at all possible $$ wise I would suggest going to a 3500 or 1 ton Dodge.

A 1 ton for a trailer GVWR of 7925?


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