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RE: What's in your tool kit? What about other must-haves?

Multi-meter and have the basic knowledge on how to use it. This is something I hadn't thought of, thanks! Do you think we should get a traditional one with leads, or a clamping type?
ApexAZ 09/20/21 11:10am Beginning RVing
RE: What's in your tool kit? What about other must-haves?

Food, clothes... Toys for the garage? I would lean toward taking a few short trips and see if you miss something. It's easy to overload packing for every possible issue. Yes, after subtracting the weight of our General, fuel and water, we have about 1100 lbs to spare. Maybe closer to 1k after we replace the mattress. We bought all plastic dishes, a cheap and lightweight pots and pan set. Minimal tools. I expect to do several trips to the scales as we settle in. Certain things, like the griddle, ice chest, 20 lb propane tank, luggage, etc, we can carry in the bed of the truck.
ApexAZ 09/20/21 10:56am Beginning RVing
What's in your tool kit? What about other must-haves?

Our new toyhauler is being delivered tomorrow! I've sorted out capacity, weight, hitches and all that, but what about things that go on the inside of the RV? So far we have purchased: Sewage hose kit Kitchen stuff Outdoor griddle Bedding stuff Cleaning stuff A basic tool kit, such as hammer, screwdrivers, allen wrenches, a socket set, leveling bubble, tape measurer, etc. Air compressor is still on our list of things to buy Fix-a-flat and tire change kit - I think it comes with a tool to lower/release the spare tire, but I am not sure if it will fit the actual wheel lugs. Also, do we need some sort of jack in the event we need to change a tire, or will the one that came with my truck work? Are there any other tools or essential items we need to get that we aren't thinking of? I'm assuming so. Suggestions?
ApexAZ 09/20/21 10:19am Beginning RVing
RE: Group 24 Flooded to Group 31 AGM

Don't BattlerBorns fit in a Group 24 box? Enjoy, Perry They might, but those are lithium only, yes? I didn't see any AGM types on their site. I am unsure if I want to spend that much $, but maybe in the future.
ApexAZ 09/19/21 03:38pm Tech Issues
RE: Group 24 Flooded to Group 31 AGM

Well, we went to sign. Of course they tried to sell us GAP and extended warranties, which we declined. They honored their agreed upon pricing and we will receive it on Tuesday. I'll just upgrade the batteries myself at some point, but for now we'll try to make the 2 24's work. Thanks all for the help!
ApexAZ 09/18/21 09:08pm Tech Issues
RE: Group 24 Flooded to Group 31 AGM

I believe swapping 2 cheap group 24 FLAs for 2 group 31 AGMs and making them fit would be worth $250 to me. Their explanation for the additional charge seems fishy though. That's $250 just in labor. All said it was close to $800 total and that was just for regular flooded, not even AGM. They said to do AGM it would have been even more. But mostly I was just curious about the labor fees. Seemed high.
ApexAZ 09/17/21 09:10pm Tech Issues
RE: Group 24 Flooded to Group 31 AGM

By the way. You don't wire the batteries in series. If you do that you will burn out everything 12v in the RV because you will be supplying it with 24v. If the "dealer" is going to wire them in series for $250 run fast and find a new dealer. Ah I'm sorry, you're right. I mean parallel.
ApexAZ 09/17/21 09:09pm Tech Issues
RE: Group 24 Flooded to Group 31 AGM

Wow, what a rip off, first they added warranty to your OTD price, and now what amounts to a few bucks of wiring they want $250. We are from the PHX area, which dealer are you purchasing your TH at so I can tell family and friends to beware. I asked our dealer when we purchased our TH what it would cost to beef up our battery bank, he stated first battery is included, only additional expense would be actual cost of extra batteries, no fake labor or wiring charges. I just asked for giggles anyway, we put a couple of 6 volt golfcart batteries from Samsclub since we mostly boondock and they are much hardier for that type of off grid RVing. Have lots of great times in your new TH!!! I don't necessarily want to slander them in public; especially this forum. But if you want to PM me I will be happy to share the details. I felt like I got a fair deal on the price, sans the extended warranty they slipped in, which we will deal with tomorrow and refuse all that before signing. It wasn't what I would consider a bargain basement price, but fair, and they beat some of the other larger dealers in the valley by quite a large margin. Especially considering how hot the market is right now. I guess the timing on the 21 models was just about right with the 22's coming out. Perhaps we could have gotten them down farther by waiting a bit longer while it continued to take up lot space, but we were ready now. On the other hand, the parts department is nowhere near a good deal it seems, so I'll just do it myself. Not a big deal if it's just wiring 2 batteries together in series. It's just a bummer we'll end up wasting the batteries it comes with. But I guess we can see if they'll omit them completely and reduce the price a tad. Anyway, assuming they honor their agreed price and don't try to force us into things we don't want, I'd say the experience hasn't been bad overall. I'm just not willing to waste $250 on what probably only amounts to about a 30 minute job, if that.
ApexAZ 09/17/21 07:23pm Tech Issues
RE: Group 24 Flooded to Group 31 AGM

There is no wiring change needed as noted above. The only thing is the one 24 they supply will be wasted money when you go for two 6s or two 27s later, so the saving for you should be for them to keep their single 24 and reduce your cost, and you supply your own batts, or they supply the batts you want and give you the cost of that one 24 off the price of the other batts. Yep, I tried that. They wouldn't go for it. Makes a lot of sense, right? But nope.
ApexAZ 09/17/21 07:17pm Tech Issues
RE: Group 24 Flooded to Group 31 AGM

Can anyone recommend a good AGM battery, or are they all similar?
ApexAZ 09/17/21 05:00pm Tech Issues
RE: Group 24 Flooded to Group 31 AGM

Your trailer is going to draw the same amount of amperage whether you have a GR24 or a GR31. So heavier wiring is not needed. If the $250 charge includes the upgraded AGM batteries then go for it. If it is just for heavier wiring tell them to pound sand. That's kind of what I was thinking, but I don't know enough about electrical to know if somehow the larger batteries would somehow output more or something. It just seemed off. So the bigger wire gauge is probably just to run them in series. What's frustrating is that they would have to wire this anyway to put the standard group 24 batteries in, because it comes with 2. So the $250 labor is to do the batteries and install a larger battery compartment tray on the hitch. Seems like highway robbery to me. Really appreciate the input. I'll just do it myself.
ApexAZ 09/17/21 04:52pm Tech Issues
Group 24 Flooded to Group 31 AGM

Hi all, We are going to sign for our new toy hauler tomorrow and I inquired about upgrading the batteries that come with it from the group 24 flooded to group 31 AGM and as part of their quote, they said there is labor needed to rewire them. They said part of the $250 labor is to upgrade the wiring to a heavier gauge wire to support the bigger batteries. What I'm a bit unclear on is whether this is just the wires needed to connect them in series, or will the wires that lead to the panel also need to be upgraded? I know these batteries have higher amp hour ratings, but at the end of the day, they are still just 12v batteries, so I would think it would just require heavier gauge wire for connecting them in series, but that's it? Can anyone confirm that's all that would be needed and that the rest of the electrical does not need to be modified to make this change? If so, it seems like something I could easily do myself I would think? Thanks, Brian
ApexAZ 09/17/21 03:36pm Tech Issues
RE: Solar system with both 12v and AC inverter

The 55A for the converter is the maximum 12V DC output current (for charging the battery and powering 12V devices when there's 120V AC power available). The 30A shore power is a 30A 120V AC connection. 55A at 12V DC is 660W of power that the converter can, well, convert. The shore power connection is capable of supplying up to 3600W. More generally, for the same power, you need a proportionally greater current at lower voltages. If you need to run the generator or be connected to shore power to have 120V AC electricity available, then you don't have an inverter working. Thanks! Yeah, I confirmed there is no inverter. We need to run the generator to power the outlets, microwave, ac, etc. We'll check out solar options in the coming months.
ApexAZ 09/15/21 10:49pm Beginning RVing
RE: New Mattress

I bought a new 2020 Grand Design Solitude and the mattress is with out a doubt the worst ever. It is a Michiana Evergreen 72x80, so called RV King. After a few weeks it has 2 depressions where we sleep. I first thought a topper might help, but after a couple more weeks, I knew it never would. If these depressions were in your back yard, it would look like 2 bodies are buried there. I want to buy a new mattress but have no clue what is a good brand, RV King 72x80 so you can't buy them just anywhere. I don't want to buy the same thing only under a different name. Anyone else had the same problem & what did you buy. I'm curious about this as well. We will need to measure, but ours has a king bed and it's very, very hard. I usually prefer a firmer mattress and it's even too hard for me. I don't know if we want to go for standard king size mattress. Weight is a concern, because our tongue weight is already pretty high. I'll follow this thread and see what options there are.
ApexAZ 09/14/21 12:22pm General RVing Issues
RE: Extended Warranty: Why do I need it?

I will be in the minority here. I normally do not get the extended warranties but I did get it with my current rig. I got it because it has a residential fridge which will not fit through the door should it need replacing. Also, it has the hydraulic leveling system. Well about 2+ yrs after buying it, the slides started to malfunction and literally started coming out while driving on the highway. fast forward to me calling dealer and them telling me it was about 3 months before I could bring it in but because I had an extended warranty I could take it anyplace I wanted. I found a repair place in Toledo and dropped the trailer off 2 weeks later. @ weeks after that, the rig was fixed and the bill was over $3000.00. I paid a small deductible. So this time it worked for me. All in all, I saved over a grand. The does not mean I am sold on the warranties. If I had a simpler trailer, like I used to, then no I would not have gotten the warranty. The best thing I can say is to look at what you have in there that can go bad and what the replacement cost might be. Air conditioning units, 2-way refrigerators, water heaters can all be replaced without costing a fortune. The warranty company was easy to deal with. I must have gotten lucky. It's helpful to hear success stories too! We don't have a full size refrigerator and it only has one slide, but it sounds like even one slide can be fairly costly to repair! Thanks for sharing your experience.
ApexAZ 09/13/21 02:02pm Beginning RVing
RE: Solar system with both 12v and AC inverter

Your TH likely already has a Pure sine wave inverter, for powering TV's or the fridge. In my Winnie I simply tapped the TV outlet in the bedroom with an extension cord for the CPAP on nights we are not connected to shore power. I should learn more from the tech guys when they do the walkthrough on Saturday, but the salesman didn't think so. I am not sure if the TV is 12v, or if maybe the generator has an inverter connected to it somehow? I really have no idea. My understanding is the generator needs to be running to power things like the AC, tv, outlets, etc. So maybe it does have an inverter and the salesman just doesn't know? The spec sheet only lists a 55A converter and 30A shore power. I'm not even sure why those figures are different, which tells you how ignorant I am on the subject lol. I'm currently drowning in solar info and looking at brands like Victronic, Renogy, GoPower, etc. It's overwhelming.
ApexAZ 09/13/21 09:24am Beginning RVing
RE: Solar system with both 12v and AC inverter

There's no problem at all with having the same battery bank supplying both 12V loads and an inverter. That's the most common setup for RVs with an inverter, and in my opinion the most sensible, as it allows you to use all the available battery power in whatever way is necessary without artificial divisions. Your CPAP machine would probably be just fine with a pure sine wave inverter; indeed, it would have no way of "telling" that the power is from an inverter and not a generator or the utility. A modified sine wave inverter is a different story altogether. That said, the DC to DC converter will probably be more efficient overall (you'll waste less power than using an inverter and the usual AC power supply). Excellent. Thank you! In a video I watched, the guy moved his lithium battery to inside the storage compartment and closer to the inverter. Is this a fire hazard?
ApexAZ 09/12/21 10:17pm Beginning RVing
Solar system with both 12v and AC inverter

So we should be picking up our new Fuel Toyhauler on Saturday and we need to install a solar panel kit with inverter. I have about a zillion questions regarding solar, but my most pressing question is in regards to AC inverter and DC converter. I have to use a CPAP machine at night and my particular model doesn't seem to support AC Inverter supplied power. I plan to call them tomorrow to confirm and find out why, but based on their battery use instructions, they say a DC-to-DC converter is needed and AC Inverter is not recommended. We also want to install an AC inverter to be able to use tv, small appliances, chargers, etc. So my question is this: could I connect a single battery to both an AC Inverter and a 12v outlet in the bedroom to be used specifically for my CPAP, or will this cause issues having two different types of circuits drawing from the same battery? Hopefully that makes sense.
ApexAZ 09/12/21 09:15pm Beginning RVing
RE: Extended Warranty: Why do I need it?

Also, lets back up a step. imo, you shouldnt be trusting/using the dealership's financial guy. Check with your local credit unions and banks and i bet you find a better deal. And fwiw, i never buy extended warranties. Sucker's bet- THEY have all the data AND decide if they will honor it or jerk you around until you give up. I called our bank plus a couple credit unions and he actually found a better rate through B of A @ 4.25%, which was more than a full percent lower than the quotes I got direct from the others. Perhaps I could do better if I spent more time on it. We took a 20 year loan to keep the payment minimum and we'll try to pay it off in 5, but I thought that was a decent rate for such a long term loan. Also make sure they didn’t throw in any type of GAP insurance. Although I’ve only seen it used once. The kid at work bought a Mustang and didn’t know they included it in the deal. Well the car got totaled and it was used! Probably the only time I’ve heard it work out for the purchaser. GAP insurance, may be something to consider, if you are going low down, and long term financing ( like 12 years). If so you will be under water for a long time. Make sure you get a policy you can cancel though, when you are at break even. Might bring some peace of mind. JMHO I hadn't thought about GAP, but I won't be surprised if that's slipped in there. The insurance we got will replace it with a brand new one in the first 5 years. Then they'll cover the cost of the original financing for the rest of the time we own it. So it basically has GAP built in (better, even) and we'll be sure to keep an eye out for that and decline it when we go to sign. We are driving to go see it in person tomorrow and do a thorough walkthrough to look for anything that may need fixing.
ApexAZ 09/11/21 03:50pm Beginning RVing
RE: Extended Warranty: Why do I need it?

Sounds like what I suspected, so I think we'll just refuse it. Hopefully they honor the original OTD price they quoted. Thank you all for the replies! :)
ApexAZ 09/10/21 10:58pm Beginning RVing
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